Bought my last Honda.

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Harv, The key to the Subies mileage is the CVT transmission..As of now the Forrester doesn't have a CVT option. I'm sure that will change in the future..
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Can't fit the family and ski gear into an Outback.
Have you looked at the new Outback? It's humungous. When we bought our Legacy wagon way back in '96, it actually had more cargo capacity than the Forester of that time and still does. With the rear seats lowered, the base model 2011 Forester has 68.3 cu. ft. of cargo space (upgraded versions have 63 for some reason). The 2011 Outback has 71.3 cu. ft. of space with the seats down. Now you wouldn't be driving with both rear seats down but you get the point. The CR-V has 72.9. OK, so what takes up 1.6 cu. ft.?  According to the mnfr. sites, the Outback actually gets slightly better mileage than a 4WD CR-V.

I just drove a 2011 Forester for a couple of days while my Impreza was in the shop getting a bodywork-related recall fixed (painting required, long story, no biggie). While I could see the value of a car like this for some people, I found driving the thing very un-inspirational, much like driving a cushy small tank. Pretty sketchy on the twisties too. I would expect that the Outback would be more fun (and car-like) to drive, which for me at least, is important. The Subaru safety factor is impressive as well.

If you are not against a used car, take a look at the previous version of the Outback. Much better looking car IMHO. I spied this 2007 turbocharged beauty at the dealer and was tempted to trade in the Impreza:

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Sick Bird Rider wrote
.....so what takes up 1.6 cu. ft.?
Lunch.
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We'll always have both of our back seat in the upright position. We use the entire front seat for cargo.  That setup works out for us for a number of reasons.

I remember in 2006 when we looked at the Outback and the CRV. As I recall cargo numbers were identical on the spec sheets. (35 sq feet? I forget).  But when Zelda and I looked in the back ... I can't explain it. We just could not envision fitting our stuff in the back of the Outback.  The cargo areas are shaped differently for sure. The CRV is deeper and taller, so I guess it must not be as long front to back.

Sick Bird Rider wrote
Have you looked at the new Outback? It's humungous.
IMO Subaru has lost it's way with the new Outback. It's got everything a huge (OK midsize) SUV has except the extra space. It reminds me of a Nissan Murano. Lots of extra weight, big wheels, but not much extra usability. Would be curious to know the increase in weight and cargo space over the previous model.

Of course all of this reflects my personal priorities. I don't care about acceleration or handling beyond what is safe. I want a low cost, high mpg, reliable, durable, efficient cargo mover that can get up our driveway in the mountains. YMMV.
"If it's my mountain, I'm installing a fixed grip and telling the lifties to stuff the beginners into chairs as aggressively as they have to, to keep it going full speed." —Brownski
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bought a 2011 outback last october. it's my 5th subuaru. it's different than my last 2004 outback in many ways,however, it gets great milage ( 32.8 mpg to/from pittsburgh ) and about 25 mpg combined around town. it has more storage room inside than old outback. my complaint is that it has become too suburbanized/sissified. it lost the hatch grab handle which i loved. but i still think that it is the best bang for the buck ski car around. for under 30 k you get a great car.
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There may well be a Subie in my future. Zelda wants me to take some dynamite to our driveway to reduce the excitement level when we are driving up and down.  I'm convinced that a Subaru would eliminate this excitement.

A guy that I work with has a 2011 Outback. I was peeking in the window checking out the rear cargo space (behind the seat), and it looks like two large suitcases would fill up the space.  I can't imagine how that space measures the same as a 2006 CRV.

So he comes out and finds me with my nose pressed up against his window and asks me "what's up?"

I told him my story and then asked him the highway mileage. He tells me "high twenties, like maybe 28."  And he has the CVT trans.

On the other hand, EPA on it is 22/29 so I'd expect mileage in the low 30s on the highway. With every car I've ever owned, I was able to beat the EPA highway estimate. My CRV is rated at 26 highway and I could squeeze out 28 in the winter and 30 in the summer.
"If it's my mountain, I'm installing a fixed grip and telling the lifties to stuff the beginners into chairs as aggressively as they have to, to keep it going full speed." —Brownski
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i lived with corrolla for 9 years..i used to go sking with my 2 girls, skis in the car along with all the equipment and overnight stuff.. i'm sure if you pack neatly you should have no problem..

the legacy gets better mileage, i don't know why..maybe less weight?

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We have a 2000 Outback Wagon. 213k miles, drives beautifully, no repairs other than maintenance and rides on rails in the snow.  It is the oldest car in our fleet and we fight over who gets to drive it.  If you are really trying to max out your mileage, how about a manual transmission in an Outback wagon?
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Harv, don't even consider a Hyundai. They have a great warranty for a reason -- you're gonna need it. I had a '06 Tucson with lockable 4WD and snows. The transmission died at 67,000. It was nowhere near as good as my 2000 CR-V was in the snow. Even my '93 Camry with snows was better.

Subarus can't be beat in the snow by anything short of an Audi. But will you enjoy driving the Subaru when you don't need the snow traction? If yes, then get a Subaru.
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Really appreciate all the good input in this thread.

The thing that is so odd about our needs is that the AWD - is really only critical on the last 500 feet up the drive, and when I storm chasing (usually solo).  Problem is that if I can't get up the drive, the car is vulnerable to be whacked by the plow, and I have to make a TON of trips when the ladies are with me.

One hidden cost of our cabin - because it lacks any real storage and some of the basics like washer/dryer - we basically bring EVERYTHING we need to live and ski, on every trip. Hence the obsession with cargo room.

One compromise we've started to make that saves us a bundle - we now leave our skis in the mountains. Without the roofbox we can get 28 mpg vs about 22 or 23 with it.  Down side is that when I hit the Catskills for a day trip, I'm on my second string skis.

Sponge: What's the down side of driving the Sube every day?  I don't drive every day - mostly just on the weekends - but still would like to know.
"If it's my mountain, I'm installing a fixed grip and telling the lifties to stuff the beginners into chairs as aggressively as they have to, to keep it going full speed." —Brownski
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