Further Analyzing Hill's Crushing Defeat

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Further Analyzing Hill's Crushing Defeat

JTG4eva!
So as not to lose seats in the mid-term, properly understanding factors that led to Hill's crushing defeat is YOOOGE for the Dems.  With time now for the analysts to crunch the voter data there is growing evidence that the perceived narrative......Hill not motivating the base combined with Trump motivating a new class of "deplorables"......may not be quite true.

Yes, had Hill paid more attention to the base in places like Michigan there is a good chance she could have overcome other factors in the vote, so turnout for the Dems was a significant factor.  However, what clinched the victory for Trump may not be what the Dems would like to believe.

Data suggests that in many states Hillary WON a majority of new voters.  So, if it wasn't new voters, the new wave of racist, nationalist "deplorables", that clinched it for Trump what was it?  Evidence in the data strongly suggests it was working class white voters who voted Obama in 2012 and Trump in 2016.  

Discuss.....

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tjf1967
May be if the DNC was not so busy boxing out the man who the people wanted.  They are the bigger problem than Hillary

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/dnc-shatters-the-illusion-of-american-democracy-in-order-to-keep-peoples-27-bucks-eaccc01ad3bd

The overall attitude of these people, as can be attested to by the posts we read tell the story of why America is not happy with them, me included.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/04/30/the-arrogance-of-blue-america

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Re: Further Analyzing Hill's Crushing Defeat

PeeTex
tjf1967 wrote
May be if the DNC was not so busy boxing out the man who the people wanted.  They are the bigger problem than Hillary

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/dnc-shatters-the-illusion-of-american-democracy-in-order-to-keep-peoples-27-bucks-eaccc01ad3bd

The overall attitude of these people, as can be attested to by the posts we read tell the story of why America is not happy with them, me included.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/04/30/the-arrogance-of-blue-america
Wow TJ, sorry I missed this, two spot on articles. Thanks!

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MC2 5678F589
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A lot of it had to do with voter disenfranchisement, leading to a lowered turnout of minority voters:

https://www.thenation.com/article/wisconsins-voter-id-law-suppressed-200000-votes-trump-won-by-23000/

The idea that a bunch of people voted for an idiot lunatic because Democrats are too smarmy is fucking ridiculous.

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Re: Further Analyzing Hill's Crushing Defeat

PeeTex
mattchuck2 wrote
A lot of it had to do with voter disenfranchisement, leading to a lowered turnout of minority voters:

https://www.thenation.com/article/wisconsins-voter-id-law-suppressed-200000-votes-trump-won-by-23000/

The idea that a bunch of people voted for an idiot lunatic because Democrats are too smarmy is fucking ridiculous.
Says the guy who so correctly predicted the results of the last election

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MC2 5678F589
Less than 70,000 votes. Coulda gone either way.

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Snowballs
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mattchuck2 wrote
The idea that a bunch of people voted for an idiot lunatic because Democrats are too smarmy is fucking ridiculous.
Well, you're off the hook smarmy so,,,,,

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Re: Further Analyzing Hill's Crushing Defeat

PeeTex
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mattchuck2 wrote
Less than 70,000 votes. Coulda gone either way.
But it didn't and it was certainly not the landslide you predicted.

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MC2 5678F589
I said she'd win the popular vote by 4%, and she won by 3%.

Pretty good prediction, if I do say so myself.

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Snowballs
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Omg, you two need to get a room.  

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