New Reality

More liberal poppycock I guess.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-great-flood/

Dang bro, I am loving that website!

Hedges won't candy coat shit.

Coach seems to believe that if China doesn't do EVERYTHING to reduce emissions, we shouldn't do ANYTHING.
 
It looks to me that China and India are beginning to be serious about reducing pollution, but that there is no path to stabilizing the global carbon load.  Even if carbon emissions are completely eliminated, some think that global warming is now baked into the system for decades or even centuries.  That means you need to prepare for more unusual weather and sea level rise.  

GOP climate deniers are not just against reducing carbon emissions, they also oppose infrastructure investments to reduce the risk and damage of flooding.  There is probably a trillion dollars of real estate at increased risk for flooding, and tRump revoked new policies because Obama.  OTOH he's keeping his federally subsidized flood insurance on Mar-a-Lago.

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Beautiful cake and amazingly eat it too!

https://www.outsideonline.com/2239836/why-west-burning

ScottyJack wrote

https://www.outsideonline.com/2239836/why-west-burning

This.

If you live out here and aren't completely in denial or just a complete idiot this article is pointing at the blatantly obvious. Everything is going and it's going crazy fast. With the warming temperatures many forests are going to be transforming into something different than what they were as they regrow.

The most telling state of denial in that article is all the new construction in the fire harard zones.  Just like the mega rich properties in flood zones we the people should not be resonsible for their greed.  You build there you pay the costs. No insursance!  And quite frankly no fire response!!  

I wonder if you would feel the same if/when some of the fault lines in the Dacks let loose. I'm shocked at your lack of sympathy for the victims of natural disasters. It's not like this is new.

It not a natural disaster when you knowingly build in an identified flood or fire zone.

Im shocked that as a hunter you do not recongize the greed of humanity.  

ScottyJack wrote

It not a natural disaster when you knowingly build in an identified flood or fire zone..

No offense, but isn't every place with an undeveloped forest (i.e. places we all want to live) a "fire zone"? There are fire dependent tree species in your area. Also this:

The center of the 1903 fires was at Lake Placid, New York. However fires also raged around the Adirondacks in Schroon Lake, Lake George, Olmsteadville, Newcomb, Ausable Forks, Saranac Lake and Clintonville. The fires were so significant that there were reports of cinders falling as far away as Albany, N.Y., 150 miles south of Lake Placid. The smoke from the fires even caused concern in Washington, D.C.

Five years later the Adirondacks would face the most devastating fire season in history, and endure blazes that burned on an off for four months. The most destructive fires would burn during the fall, the Adirondacks’ other fire season. In September 1908, New York City and Quebec City to the north were blanketed in clouds of smoke from fires raging in the Adirondack counties of Hamilton, Herkimer, St. Lawrence, Franklin, and Essex.

I'm offended by your lack of historical knowledge.  These fires are the exact reason the State established the Forest Preserve. The wanton clearcutting and piling of dead discarded wood was sparked by embers from coal fired trains.  By allowing the forests to regrow nature mitigated flooding and acts like a giant sponge retainning water and moisture thereby reducing large scale forest fires.  

The current land use plan highly discourages development in heavily forested areas.  Only 15 buildings per square mile allowed in lands classified as resource management. These are the lands of greatest open forests.

The state generally will allow natural forest fired to burn unless threatening communities.  This helps to reduce fuel load.

You obvi did not read the article.

 

Uh oh! Scottyjack just pulled out the O word!

Time to create some new laws to protect the sensitive.

I think the wording is off in that article. A lot of people are building into the forest and not clearing their properties to be fire safe. That's a thing out here at least.

I did.

Just saying it's a bit weird for someone who lives in a pretty forested area to criticize other people who live in forested areas.

You do you, though.

Also, camp made a pretty good point about earthquakes:



How about this: we help people who are victims of natural disasters, even as we try to discourage unsafe building practices in risky areas and work to decrease extreme weather conditions by trying to curtail climate change.

Interesting article in the Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/09/12/opinion/columnists/leonhardt-temperatures-extreme-storms.html?_r=0

Not every forested area is fire prone. Google it and post up a graph.  

Honestly, I was trying to find a map for that. Then I was hoping to put a big dot over your town.



Edit: looks like we're all okay, as long as we stay here.

The Adirondacks will become a temperate climate and be livable far longer than the rest of the country.  We'll replace the blueline with the blue milita.  Just enough resources for those of us already here!

We have water and a forest canopy that shades the understory and protects soil from drying out. That reduces fuel load hence lack of massive forest fires since forest preserve allowed regrowth.

New York State is probably the most intelligent state in the nation.  

The wording is spot on.  Forest type, moisture content, aspect, wind are all modeled to determine areas of high risk.

Rich people disregard risk because they disregard reality because money makes their reality.

 Mother Nature does not care about your money!