The Gap: Anger, Bernie, Trump, Brexit.. what else?

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D.B. Cooper D.B. Cooper
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mattchuck2 wrote
a guaranteed minimum income.
I can't decide which is a worse idea, a guaranteed income or proportional voting.
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campgottagopee wrote
Guaranteed minimum income
We will see how the experiment goes in Finland. The people I talk to in Sweden are laughing at them.
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Um, it not just the swedes who are laughin at you old timer...  
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billyymc wrote
PeeTex wrote
No - an automation tax
Brilliant. Let's tax innovation and progress.
Yea - Bill Gates thinks it's a great idea as well.
Benoit Hamon of France proposed it int he French Presidential election.
Before you dismiss it out of hand you should at least read a little
http://www.computerworld.com/article/3177426/it-management/it-s-time-to-tax-the-robots.html
Automation taxes could be used to fund what Matt supports - the basic minimum income hand out (which I do not support) for those who have lost their jobs to robots.

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Automation is good, yes?
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Automation is great, however only a few of the very rich really benefit from it in the long run.
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Wow, huge numbers. Positive drug tests went from 4% to 4.2%?!?!!?

It's an epidemic!

Also, I'm pretty sure I could do most jobs (retail, telemarketing, etc.) high.
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D.B. Cooper wrote
mattchuck2 wrote
a guaranteed minimum income.
I can't decide which is a worse idea, a guaranteed income or proportional voting.
Explain why both are bad, please.
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard":

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/trump-budget-snap-social-security/527799/?utm_source=poltw

Trump's Cuts to SNAP and Social Security Would Hit the Rust Belt Hard
The president’s full budget includes reductions in income-support programs that core Republican voters rely on—more so than other groups do.

In the key Rustbelt states that tipped the 2016 election to President Trump, blue-collar white voters at the core of his constituency represent a majority of those receiving benefits from the federal income-support programs he has targeted for large cutbacks in his budget, according a new analysis conducted for The Atlantic.

Whites without a four-year college degree constitute most of those receiving assistance from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, Social Security’s Supplemental Security Income program, and Social Security’s disability program in each of the five Rustbelt states that flipped from Barack Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016: Iowa, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. They also represent a majority of the programs’ beneficiaries in other heavily working-class interior states—from Arkansas and Kentucky through Missouri and Montana—that are central to GOP fortunes in upcoming elections.
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