A little rant about Gore

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NorEaster27 wrote
Where is Snoopy shoot?
Classified info, bud. Get a friend to show you.
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MC2 5678F589 wrote
If they want good workers, they have to pay actual money and treat workers well. If they're okay with workers that work for cheap (but might be flaky) and management that works for cheap (but doesn't care enough to open mountain areas), then there is not much that we can do about it.
Usually state run facilities are pay pretty well, and offer good benefits. At least for Full-time employees that is. ORDA is state run, right? I've met a few of the people in the maintenance department, and they seem like great people. It honestly makes me want their job. As long as I can afford to eat that is. I think Gore is run by mostly locals. Someone I met in Chestertown at Dynamite hill once told me that Gore won't even look at your resume if your not a local.

I know the guy who built the new bridge at Belleayre.  The commute from his house/shop was well over an hour, but he wanted that job because it was a state job, and he figured he could bid high, and still have a chance of getting it. Sure enough, he was the lowest bidder. He seemed excited about the job because he knew he would be paid well, and on time. Now he's taking three month's off from work.
I'll take boilerplate ice over wet snow any day
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Ethan Snow wrote
. It honestly makes me want their job. As long as I can afford to eat that is. . .
Yep. Gotta eat. Some people do well with the state, some don't.

They have good employees, and they lost a lot of good employees. I'll leave it there.
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I think working at a ski area in general is going to be a compromise. Its jut a tough business to be in. I used to work at Plattekill and most days I loved it, but some days it totally sucked and the pay was not good. In many ways I really wish I still worked there. It was just a fun and unique experience. Most of the time. The hour commute is really what made it impractical for me.

If I could ever find a year round job at a ski area in the maintenance department that put a roof over my head and food on the table I'd jump all over it.
I'll take boilerplate ice over wet snow any day
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Matt and I often disagree on things but he is spot on on this topic.
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Ethan Snow wrote
If you're asking me, I'm 20. 21 in early March. The forum used to list our age under our profile.

Why?
Ethan Snow wrote
If you're asking me, I'm 20. 21 in early March. The forum used to list our age under our profile.

Why?

Thanks. You'll learn. It takes a while.
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Saratogahalfday wrote
You lost me at too cold to ski.  Are you from Jersey?

Gore has staffing issues mid-week, and will forever unless a legitimate town or resort appears out of thin air.  Many mountains rely on foreign students, from the southern hemisphere, to work full-time during the heart of the winter to teach lessons, run the lifts, ect.  Gore will never attract them.  

I think you're better off at Killington for mid-week skiing.  As for moving to my town, good luck with that.  It will literally cost you an arm and a leg.

Wait. What?

Listen, this is really dumb. I always thought that the whole purpose of state funded recreational facilities upstate was not only a way to provide downstaters with affordable ways to experience upstate, but also economic stimulus for down and out upstate towns and regions that have seen the best times a long time ago (if they ever really happened, but, we won't go there now). So, simply, why not just put the call out to the local communities that Gore is hiring? Isn't that the whole point? Jobs! Ok, maybe seasonal, but, still. I drive through Warrensburg. That's not an economically dynamic place, to put it mildly. I'm pretty sure some could use some extra cash in the winter, maybe, even, with some benefits attached. Don't tell me that ORDA is concerned about labor costs as per net profit, because, c'mon, in the end, they ain't making no profit. So spread that butter. That's the point! Win, win! If you're going to play that game, make everyone happy. Make Benny happy and turn the lifts, so he drives up and spends cash outside the mountain (in economic terms, it's called the multiplier effect. Google it), and the locals have some income, so they contribute to the multiplier effect. Stimulus! But, you know, Benny ain't coming back to contribute to the multiplier effect until some people get their shit together and figure this basic stuff out. Sad.

And, son, don't tell me about "your town". I lived there for three years, right on Broadway, and, yeah, I know cold, too. But, you're right. I am better off at Killington midweek. Your loss. You know why? Because, if you continue with that attitude, maybe Saratoga will be Glen's Falls someday, full of bitter, jobless people rejecting the world. Then where will you be?
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NorEaster27 wrote
Where is Snoopy shoot?

A better question is who is the child who named it that.
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Don't let anyone discourage you about what you want to do Ethan. You are a go getter - hard workin CNY country boy. You will be successful no matter where you choose to land a job.
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Benny Profane wrote
NorEaster27 wrote
Where is Snoopy shoot?

A better question is who is the child who named it that.
I actually know how it was named and who named it, sort of. But these things should not be discussed on the innernets.  Maybe if you buy me a beer I'll tell you, or maybe even show you the entrance.

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