I'm pretty sure MC has been to Elm. They are really nicely done trails. The back side has a wood platform that goes on for quite a while. Never experienced something like that before...and its dry right now Austerlitz off the Taconic has some great old school trails. Good climbs, lots of miles. lately, I've been getting into following snowmobile trails out in the finger lakes region. The trails are not as technical but you cover a lot of territory and they always lead somewhere.