2017 Whiteface UMP Amendment

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2017 Whiteface UMP Amendment

I was looking at this, linked to the article about the recent APA meeting  regarding potential new initiatives.

I like most of what was presented at the recent meeting, as well as what is in the 2017 UMP Amendment, which I hadn’t previously seen.

However, IMHO there are a couple of horrors in that 2017 Amendment.

Begin rant....

First, is that map saying they intend to widen Upper Empire?  God no, they can’t do that!  Empire is the best, most classic, narrow, winding east coast trail on the mountain.  One of the best in the northeast.  It’s challenge comes from how narrow it is.  Widening would change the character of the trail completely.  We can never let such a thing happen!!!

Next is Upper McKenzie.  Looks like they want to ruin the best, most difficult part of that trail.  The section where it veers a little right and gets steep.  On the left below that point there is a big boulder/ledge.  Looks like they want to widen and straighten the trail there, removing the part of the trail that gives Mac its best character.

These two things would entirely change the skiing experience of Empire and Mac, and not for the better.  It really would be a shame, and I’m hoping it never actually happens.  Someone in the know please tell me it won’t.

Rant over.
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New trail proposed skiers left of upper mac.  No change to upper mac.  minor Widening proposed for middle mac from 2200 road through the ledges.  Lookers left looking up from 2200.  

Empire does have previous approval for widening.
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If they actually fuck with Empire (or shave the edges on Upper Mac) I’m blaming the Millenials!

What’s the point of widening Empire? Really, they’ll just turn it into an uninteresting trail that nobody will ever ski.  Heck, it’s open infrequently enough as it is, but at least it’s often skiable because it’s protected and holds snow.  Widen it into a straight boulevard and that won’t be the case any more.  Friggen idiots.
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JTG4eva! wrote
If they actually fuck with Empire (or shave the edges on Upper Mac) I’m blaming the Millenials!

What’s the point of widening Empire? Really, they’ll just turn it into an uninteresting trail that nobody will ever ski.  Heck, it’s open infrequently enough as it is, but at least it’s often skiable because it’s protected and holds snow.  Widen it into a straight boulevard and that won’t be the case any more.  Friggen idiots.
I think you can relax ... The widening of Empire has been an approved UMP item SINCE 1996!
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Keeping poachers happy for over 20 years!  
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There's a new Gore UMP amendment pending that has some welcome improvements.  The High Peaks lift would be extended above Rumor, where nature intended it to be.  There is a high speed quad at the Ski Bowl.  There are more trails at Burnt Ridge that better connect to Twister and make it easier to return to the quad from Echo, but you lose some of Echo glade.  These things will no doubt be built as soon as the previously approved Bear Mountain lodge is finished.

Sadly, it doesn't include my proposal to use ziplines to provide access to the Straightbrook lift when there is no snow on Pine Knot.  There's still time to file comments, so maybe I will.

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The high peaks lift used to end near the warming hut above Cloud
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That's crazy money!

Where can one get a blank checkbook like that, or is it a debit card, or debt card.
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Thats crazy, hopefully they all three mountains get a kick in the snowmaking-ass that they need.
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