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MikeK
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Dog stoke thread got me thinking... been talking it over with the wife, our little princess dog won't last forever and she is worthless for skiing with, but being sub-10 lbs is good in a canoe and is actually a fairly good hiking dog - her low cg keeps her stable on almost any terrain.

Had a 70lb mutt a few years back that was a handful, eventually ran himself into a car just when he was getting to be a cool dog.  Decided that is too big though - he tried to dump us in the boat and would throw it all out of whack.

I'm thinking medium sized breeds/mutt mixes that like the snow and can handle the cold but also are not ridiculously high strung - living where we do it becomes unfair to the dog to keep inside so much.

I really like Shiba Inus because a relative bred them when I was younger and hers were always really cool.  They are tough and love the outdoors, but also have read they are really hard to train and will constantly test you.  Husky, Samoyed, etc, same way... I don't have the patience for them.
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ScottyJack
dude, sounds like a cat would work better.  
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MikeK
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I do like me a cougar...
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marznc
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ScottyJack wrote
dude, sounds like a cat would work better.  
Same thought crossed my mind.  Especially because of this story about the skiing cat in Norway.  He likes to go hiking too.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/02/160223-skiing-cat-norway-animals-pets-jesper-science/
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marznc
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Our dog would actually be a great dog for outdoor adventures.  She's about 45 pounds, supposedly a golden retriever and border collie mix.  Looks like a small golden but with upright ears.  Came with the name Foxy and that suits her.  Quite smart and likes to play, but can easily spend the day inside just being lazy.  That was true even when we first got her when she was perhaps 18 months old.  We don't get snow often, but she likes it when that happens.

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warp daddy
Norwegian Forest Cat or a "WEGIE "
Had one of these BIG guys , are like a dog ,very hardy , friendly and CAN take the anow n cold . My guy was 22 lbs , smart as hell, feriendly SOLID black longer hair a TRIPLE coat , beautiful animal like a damn leopard !! After having Labradors for 30 yrs THIS guy was a cat who thought he was a dog

Hers stuff from Wiki ,


Norwegian Forest cat (Norwegian: Norsk skogkatt or Norsk skaukatt) is a breed of domestic cat originating in Northern Europe. This natural breed is adapted to a very cold climate, with top coat of glossy, long, water-shedding hairs, and a woolly undercoat for insulation. Although this is uncertain, the breed's ancestors may have been a landrace of short-haired cats brought to Norway by the Vikings around 1000 AD, who may also have brought with them long-haired cats, like those ancestral to the modern Siberian and Turkish Angora breeds. During World War II, the breed became nearly extinct until efforts by the Norwegian Forest Cat Club helped the breed by creating an official breeding program. It was registered as a breed with the European Fédération Internationale Féline in the 1970s, when a local cat fancier, Carl-Fredrik Nordane, took notice of the breed and made efforts to register it. Currently, the Norwegian Forest breed is very popular in Norway, Sweden, Iceland and France.

It is a big, strong cat, similar to the American Maine Coon breed, with long legs, a bushy tail and a sturdy body. The breed is very good at climbing, since they have strong claws. The lifespan is usually 14 to 16 years, though kidney and heart diseases have been reported in the breed. Specifically in this breed, complex rearrangements of glycogen branching enzyme (GBE1) can cause a perinatal hypoglycaemic collapse and a late-juvenile-onset neuromuscular degeneration in glycogen storage disease type IV.


18-month-old Norwegian Forest young adult
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History Edit

The Norwegian Forest cat is adapted to survive Norway's cold weather.[1][2] Its ancestors may include black and white shorthair cats brought to Norway from Great Britain some time after 1000 AD by the Vikings, and longhaired cats brought to Norway by Crusaders. These cats could have reproduced with farm and feral stock and may have eventually evolved into the modern-day Norwegian Forest breed.[3][4][5] The Siberian and the Turkish Angora, longhaired cats from Russia and Turkey, respectively, are also possible ancestors of the breed.[3] Norse legends refer to the skogkatt as a "mountain-dwelling fairy cat with an ability to climb sheer rock faces that other cats could not manage."[6] Since the Norwegian Forest cat is a very adept climber,[7] author Claire Bessant believes that the skogkatt folktale could be about the ancestor of the modern Norwegian Forest breed.[6] The name Norse skogkatt is used by some breeder and fancier organisations for the modern breed.

Most likely the ancestors of the Norwegian Forest cat served as ships' cats (mousers) on Viking ships.[8] The original landrace lived in the Norwegian forests for many centuries, but were later prized for their hunting skills and were used on Norwegian farms,[9] until they were discovered in the early twentieth century by cat enthusiasts.[10]

In 1938 the first organisation devoted to the breed, the Norwegian Forest Cat Club, was formed in Oslo, Norway.[11] The club's movement to preserve the breed was interrupted by World War II. Owing to cross-breeding with free-ranging domestic cats during the war, the Norwegian Forest cat became endangered and nearly extinct until the Norwegian Forest Cat Club helped the breed make a comeback by developing an official breeding program.[12][13][verification needed] Since the cat did not leave Norway until the 1970s, it was not registered as a breed in the Fédération Internationale Féline (FIFe), the pan-European federation of cat registries, until Carl-Fredrik Nordane, a Norwegian cat fancier, took notice of the breed, and made efforts to register it.[11] The breed was registered in Europe by the 1970s, and in the American Cat Fanciers Association in 1994.[14] In 1978, it was recognized in Sweden,[15][clarification needed] and in 1989, they were accepted as a breed in the United Kingdom by the Norwegian Cat Club of Britain.[16]

The Norwegian Forest breed is very popular in Norway and Sweden. It has been the fifth most popular cat breed in France since 2003, where there are about 400 to 500 births per year.[17][18][19]

Breed description Edit

The Norwegian Forest Cat is strongly built and larger than an average cat. The breed has a long, sturdy body, long legs and a bushy tail. The coat consists of a long, glossy, thick and water-repellent top layer and a woolly undercoat and is thickest at the legs, chest and head.[6] The profile of the breed is generally straight.[8]


Hue distribution in bi-colored Norwegian Forest cats varies widely.
The head is long, with an overall shape similar to an equilateral triangle, a strong chin, and a muzzle of medium length; a square or round-shaped head is considered to be a defect.[20] The eyes are almond shaped and oblique, and may be of any colour.[6][21] The ears are large, wide at the base, high set, have a tufted top, are placed in the extension of the triangle formed by the head, and end with a tuft of hair like the ears of the lynx.[20] All coat colors are accepted except chocolate and lilac and the dilutions fawn and cinnamon.[20] Since the cats have very strong claws, they are very good climbers, and can even climb rocks.[14]

Norwegian Forest cats have a quiet voice but can develop a loud voice if kept in a house with a dog.[6] They are friendly, intelligent, and are generally good with people.[3] The Norwegian Forest cat has a lot of energy[3] and can be very demanding of attention. Those cats that live primarily outdoors become swift and effective hunters, but the breed can also adapt to indoor life.[5] If bought from a registered breeder in the USA, they tend to cost from $550 to $800.[22] The cats usually live to be 14 to 16 years old.[22] As they are heavy-boned and tall, they require more food than most other domestic breeds.[4][22] Males are considerably heavier and larger-boned than females.[23]

Health issues Edit
There have been kidney and heart diseases reported in the breed.[22] In an experiment directed by John C. Fyfea, Rebeccah L. Kurzhals, and others, it was concluded that a complex rearrangement in the breed's Glycogen branching enzyme (GBE1) can cause both a perinatal hypoglycemic collapse and a late-juvenile-onset neuromuscular degeneration in glycogen storage disease type IV in the breed.[24][25] This disorder, while rare, can prove fatal to cats that have it.[3] There are DNA tests available for GSD IV, and it is highly recommended (some cat associations obligate their Norwegian Forest cat breeder members) to carry out the DNA test before using such animal for breeding. PawPeds provide a pedigree database which comes together with health programmes, through publishing each single cat's test result, to provide useful information for breeders to make a well-informed breeding decision. The breed has also been known to suffer from hip dysplasia,[26] which is a rare, partially hereditary disease of the hip joint.[27]

1 dia de vida.jpg Blaffido2.jpg Norwegian Forest Cat Kitten (3 months).JPG 8 month old Norwegian Forest Cat.jpg BlackNorwegianForestCatWinter.jpg
2 days 1 week 3 months 8 months Full grown
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MikeK
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Cats are pussies...

I like that golden/collie mix - how is her health?  I like goldens too but they are expensive and don't last that long.  My inlaws had one, great dog, only lived to be like 7 though.

Our Chihuahua just turned 8 and she's like a puppy still.
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campgottagopee
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MikeK wrote
 

Had a 70lb mutt a few years back that was a handful, eventually ran himself into a car just when he was getting to be a cool dog.  

 
Geezus, don't you contain your pups in your yard?? That sucks.
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ScottyJack
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MikeK wrote
Cats are pussies...

but they are expensive .

dude dogs are free go to a shelter or rescue organization.  
I ride with Crazy Horse!
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MikeK
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campgottagopee wrote
Geezus, don't you contain your pups in your yard?? That sucks.
Yup - sure do.  He broke his collar and immediately ran into the street and was hit.  It was a series of bad coincidences.  But he was kind of dumb and had a lot of energy - he didn't know any better.

SJ - Petey was a free mutt dawg from a shelter.  I was talking about purebred dogs... they all cost, but some are really expensive.  I think I'd rather have a mutt if I can find the right cross breed.
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campgottagopee
MikeK wrote
campgottagopee wrote
Geezus, don't you contain your pups in your yard?? That sucks.
Yup - sure do.  He broke his collar and immediately ran into the street and was hit.  It was a series of bad coincidences.  But he was kind of dumb and had a lot of energy - he didn't know any better.

 
That sucks --- I hit a dog once and felt terrible. Damn near cried

I use the Invisible Fence for my dogs. It's simply the best thing ever!! Total piece of mind when I let them out.
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ScottyJack
campgottagopee wrote
I use the Invisible Fence for my dogs. It's simply the best thing ever!! Total piece of mind when I let them out.
pussy dogs stay in invisible fences...  
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Z
Works great for most dogs.  We have a wireless one from Pet Safe that covers about a 3/4 acre circle around our house and doesn't require you to bury wires in the ground.  Our Lab adjusted to it quickly and won't leave the zone even if we are charging his collar.

Scotty's dog may be a bit on the extreme side.  Only met him once.
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raisingarizona
Invisible Fences would be a kick ass name for a band.

I was going to suggest an Australian heeler dawg like my Sades (part of her anyhow) but than I caught the part about the dog not being too high strung. Heelers are nuts and they gotta run almost daily when they are young or they get very unhappy.

What about Jack Russell's? They seem pretty cool but I don't know.
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campgottagopee
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Coach Z wrote
Works great for most dogs.  We have a wireless one from Pet Safe that covers about a 3/4 acre circle around our house and doesn't require you to bury wires in the ground.  Our Lab adjusted to it quickly and won't leave the zone even if we are charging his collar.

Scotty's dog may be a bit on the extreme side.  Only met him once.
Agree, Coach.....smart dogs stay inside their fences. After all they say dogs are like their owners --- that would explain SJ's pup
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MikeK
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JRs are a dog on my short list.  They are pretty tough little guys.  Chewers though.  The people that owned our house before we bought it had one; lots of the molding bears the scars of his handiwork.

There's no perfect dog under 2 years old, they all have puppy issues.
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JTG4eva!
MikeK wrote
There's no perfect dog under 2 years old, they all have puppy issues.
Perfect, no....but our Griffin was pretty darn close.  Hardly ever chewed anything.  Not that all your dogs aren't great, but Grif is the best dog on the planet.



He's a Morkie.  Big dog in a small dog body, no yappy annoying pup here.  Wouldn't be good for skiing though, legs to short!
We REALLY need a proper roll eyes emoji!!
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marznc
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MikeK wrote
I like that golden/collie mix - how is her health?  I like goldens too but they are expensive and don't last that long.  My inlaws had one, great dog, only lived to be like 7 though.

Our Chihuahua just turned 8 and she's like a puppy still.
Foxy is around 13 years old at this point.  A little less energetic but doing fine in general.  Only big unexpected vet bill was for extracting a cracked tooth.  Vet said it had to have been cracked for a while but there were never any pain symptoms.

When we were looking for a dog to adopt, I was looking for a golden mix that would be less than 50 pounds.  I like having a dog I can pick up if necessary.  Since I only weigh about 115, a dog that's over 70 pounds is not going to work out well.