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Harvey Harvey
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Big Tupper

We may have a chance to interview Jim LaValley and David Tomberlin from Big Tupper in September.  My guess is that they probably want to talk about the resort.  While I'm interested in the development, I'm really curious about the skiing, the history of the hill, snowfall, grooming, tree skiing and lifts.

If you've got questions about Big Tupper — post em below.

Big Tupper

FYI - here's all of Harvey Road's Big Tupper booty all on one link:

http://nyskiblog.com/blog/big-tupper
"If it's my mountain, I'm installing a fixed grip and telling the lifties to stuff the beginners into chairs as aggressively as they have to, to keep it going full speed." —Brownski
Tin Woodsman Tin Woodsman
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At what point, if any, do you plan to re-open the Mt. Morris lift and terrain pod?
Snowballs Snowballs
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1) Would they consider giving free day tickets to hotshot skiers/bloggers on the internet like H44 and MC2? After all, they would do write ups apres ski....good PR. MC2 is an alumni.

2) What was the hardest obstacle to reopening?

3) Any ideas for attracting new customers?

4) Ever reach out to groups like Meathead Films or Craig Stay Products to solicite video coverage? Meathead poached it once when it was closed and did release some video of it.

5) How's the grub?

6) Any signature dish? (Great food helps attract customers.)

7) Any plans for a boarder/skier cross course?

8) Do they usually have bump run?

9) Online contests can generate new customers. Like Gore did with cyclists on their FB page. Could Tupper do something similar? Maybe even niche wise, like skiadk or The Road or other venues to attract people who are out of Tupper's normal local area.

10) Would Tupper have a swap day with ORDA? We ski there one day free and they ski here one day free.


I tried to write questions that may help them attract new business. That's always a critical element.


And Harv, do not neglect the questions I sent you for Uncle Mikey - All ten of them, please! ;)
Adk Jeff Adk Jeff
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Harv, start with the basics:
- Operating schedule
- Lift ticket prices
- What lifts will operate?
- What terrain is expected to be available?
- Will there be snowmaking and if so, how much?
- Will they groom?
- Will there be "enhancements" to the terrain, i.e. creation of glades, terrain park, etc.?
- Who do they expect their customers to be, locals or overnight tourists?
Harvey Harvey
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Reached out with a list of preliminary questions, including most of the input above.

(Thanks Jeff, Snowballs and TW).

More input is desirable and welcome.

Trying to set up a site tour at Mt Morris, with Jim and David, in the next few weeks.

EDIT: Snowballs are you thinking about the video from CS Films at Big Tupper?
"If it's my mountain, I'm installing a fixed grip and telling the lifties to stuff the beginners into chairs as aggressively as they have to, to keep it going full speed." —Brownski
Snowballs Snowballs
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Yea like I said........ CS Films
Jamesdeluxe Jamesdeluxe
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No one knows the year of this Big Tupper trail map?
I:)skiing I:)skiing
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Beginner terrain

Lifts for said terrrain

At what age--and under do kids ski free.    Match Gore?

I have not driven this in winter and have not looked at a map.    What are the roads like?  Do they have to plow anythhing to get the place open.    
Goreskimom Goreskimom
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I like the ORDA reciprocation idea.  It would be great if Tupper and Hickory did something for ORDA passholders.  Jay Peak offers 25% off a day ticket to any person with a season pass nationwide.  When we are up in VT and debating skiing Jay or Stowe, it always makes $$ sense to ski Jay.  
MC2 5678F589 MC2 5678F589
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Snowballs wrote
8) Do they usually have bump run?
There was a sick bump run right under the main chair (the one right in front of the base lodge, on the left if you're looking up the mountain) when I skied there.  Went from the top of that chair all the way down to the midstation.  It was steep, with a lot of different lines, including some Dark Side Glades type rocks that were roped off (but skied anyway).  I even remember skiing in a bump contest there in 97 or 98.  Nice kicker, and a lot of good skiers.

Snowballs wrote
10) Would Tupper have a swap day with ORDA? We ski there one day free and they ski here one day free.
Great Idea - and a great way to build clientele.

I:)skiing wrote
I have not driven this in winter and have not looked at a map.    What are the roads like?  Do they have to plow anythhing to get the place open.    
There's an access road that runs from the lake past the golf course and up to the base area.  It's similar to Gore's access road in windiness, shorter in length, and crappy asphalt/gravel instead of smooth asphalt.  I don't remember too much of a problem with plowing, but I guess the answer to your question is yes, they have to plow something.

I seriously think that if Big Tupper can cultivate a Mad River Glen type vibe they can pull off a great skiing experience.  However, that doesn't really mesh with the high end condos, Adirondack great camps, and hotels they want to put in.  The people who buy that type of real estate seem to want their runs more manicured (See "Valley, Deer").  I also don't really know how much work will be involved in getting the top of the mountain ready.  The last couple of years that the mountain operated, that lift was almost always (maybe even always) closed.  The runs kind of fell into disrepair.  There was always a "natural" feel to the terrain up top, but the last couple of year that I skied up there the trails all seemed to add saplings and bushes every summer.  They're going to need a lot of people working very hard to get the mountain ready.

Regardless, I want in.  I'm definitely going to have to try it this year.  The only thing holding me back last year was the lack of snow (and I almost went anyway when I got up to Gore one day and it was on an Ice hold - seriously considered just driving north on 28).  Just like MRG, Big Tupper is great when there's a lot of natural, but might be a little suspect when Mother Nature fails to provide.
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