Fat Skis in Non-Powder Conditions

Can't remember if anyone posted about this study, which claims that using fat skis (not defined in the article, but it sounds like they're referring to anything with a waist above the mid-90s?) in hard conditions isn't good for your knees. Makes sense, but what do I know?

Just don't ski on hard snow. It sucks anyway

I wouldn't call it much of a study. He took a few measurements, and didn't exclude any other causes for the supposed sore knees and ankles. He even concedes a lack of data regarding injuries. He'd probably give a D to any student who handed in such a poorly supported "study."

There might be more to it, but the article is poorly written (e.g., "undo" instead of "undue" or "there is no data").

skimore wrote

Just don't ski on hard snow. It sucks anyway

On the ec, "hard snow" is all you get much of the time.  Unless you want to hike for miles and miles and miles every run.  I only ski lift served, so I am on "hard snow" 90% of the time.  However, I did get 3 powder days this year.

Just ski off trail there's powder everywhere.

Spongeworthy wrote

I wouldn't call it much of a study. He took a few measurements, and didn't exclude any other causes for the supposed sore knees and ankles. He even concedes a lack of data regarding injuries. He'd probably give a D to any student who handed in such a poorly supported "study."

There might be more to it, but the article is poorly written (e.g., "undo" instead of "undue" or "there is no data").

“Right now we have data in the theoretical sense,” he said.

In other words, we have a small group of people who share the same opinion... now let's waste some money and try to prove ourselves right.

Has my interest because I spent a day at Killington last year on my fat skis (don't ask) mostly on groomers and my knee came out the other side real sore. Very sore. For like two months. Pre existing condition, but, still.......

I've skied "fat skis" for years in firm conditions, as has my wife.  Not as quick edge to edge, but when you tele I don't think it matters as much.  I hurt my knee last year doing a flat spin messing around on a Tannery, but that wasn't due to the ski, just me being bored on a (generally) boring run.

Glade Runner wrote

Just ski off trail there's powder everywhere.

And get my pass pulled for going out of bounds.

skimore wrote

Just don't ski on hard snow. It sucks anyway

I'm really starting to come to that.  I've dragged my trad camber skis around with me all year. Even with the amount of resort skiing I do, most often, at least 80% of the time, my 98s are the right width for the snow I'm skiing. I need more sidecut, but that's a different issue.

snoloco wrote

skimore wrote

Just don't ski on hard snow. It sucks anyway

On the ec, "hard snow" is all you get much of the time.

There you go again using MC as reference for all things ski related. You could pretty much ski soft snow all over the EC for the last 30 days straight

skimore wrote

snoloco wrote

skimore wrote

Just don't ski on hard snow. It sucks anyway

On the ec, "hard snow" is all you get much of the time.  

There you go again using MC as reference for all things ski related. You could pretty much ski soft snow all over the EC for the last 30 days straight

Ok, what mountain did you ski it at and I don't mean backcountry.  How can you ski more like your username says if you won't accept anything that is not a powder day?  Maybe you should change that name to skimoreonlyonpowderdays.  

snoloco wrote

skimore wrote

snoloco wrote

skimore wrote

Just don't ski on hard snow. It sucks anyway

On the ec, "hard snow" is all you get much of the time.  

There you go again using MC as reference for all things ski related. You could pretty much ski soft snow all over the EC for the last 30 days straight

Ok, what mountain did you ski it at and I don't mean backcountry.  How can you ski more like your username says if you won't accept anything that is not a powder day?  Maybe you should change that name to skimoreonlyonpowderdays.

I'm not implying backcountry. Take a look at all the trip reports for the last month and figure it out

Pretty sure I don't have a day on firm snow this year and my daily drivers are 106mm.

Are we really doing this thread again?

skimore wrote

snoloco wrote

skimore wrote

snoloco wrote

skimore wrote

Just don't ski on hard snow. It sucks anyway

On the ec, "hard snow" is all you get much of the time.  

There you go again using MC as reference for all things ski related. You could pretty much ski soft snow all over the EC for the last 30 days straight

Ok, what mountain did you ski it at and I don't mean backcountry.  How can you ski more like your username says if you won't accept anything that is not a powder day?  Maybe you should change that name to skimoreonlyonpowderdays.

I'm not implying backcountry. Take a look at all the trip reports for the last month and figure it out

Alright skiless, then what's your definition of "hard snow".

Skip tips his cap, and I Take It All Back gets up in the bullpen

Thacheronix wrote

Skip tips his cap, and I Take It All Back gets up in the bullpen

 

Funny stuff

ml242 wrote

Pretty sure I don't have a day on firm snow this year and my daily drivers are 106mm.
 

We were talking about this tuesday ---- first thaw / freeze cycle everyone be like who the hell wants to go ski that crap

It's been a long time since we've been snow spoiled here on the EC, personally I dig it baby.