Kids, Homework, College, AP, Ski Racing, All of It

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Kids, Homework, College, AP, Ski Racing, All of It

This sub-thread has a life of it's own, so I broke it out.  I'm sure the "REPLYS" are messed up, apologies.
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I’m sure he will be taking many AP classes jr and Sr years.  He could have taken AP world history this yr but decided not to so he can take US history which opens up taking AP macro Econ as a jr and or AP Psych as a Sr. At this point he is saying he may want to major in business or engineer but I also could see more or a bio slant and try for something like PT or sports trainer.  

If I had to place a bet on what school he ends up at I’d go with Clarkson at this point.  
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...they realized that a focus shift to academic training at that time, SAT prep training, a consultant for college applications and essays, loading up on AP classes, technology camps, music camps, etc. So killer SAT & ACT scores resulted and now the girl is in a great college...
This might be a great scenario for your grand daughter, but it seems like a big load to me.

Our daughter is going through a period where she seems to really not like to read. Obviously that's not ideal, but we're trying to take a chill approach to it. She got through her standardized testing this spring and was recommended for AP English.  She really didn't want to do it.  The reading list for this summer was more than 2 books a week. We told the school to put her in normal English.

She's totally into gymnastics and doing it 8 hours a day at a camp and totally digging it.  Maybe this is a mistake, but we are having a lot of fun enjoying the summer, with a break from the relentless load of homework during the school year. For now we're letting a kid be a kid.

IMO the goal is to be happy, not necessarily rich. I guess we'll see how it turns out.
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Sounds healthy Harv.

I was under the impression your daughter was younger. Or do they have AP classes before high school these days?
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Well Peetex is "rich" and unhappy so you guys are way ahead of him!
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I was under the impression your daughter was younger. Or do they have AP classes before high school these days?
She's in 6th grade.  

It's funny that never even occurred to me. I never made it into any AP classes so I guess I wasn't totally conscious of that change.

I do remember my best buddy in high school had a girlfriend who was super bright and she burned through everything AP by end of her junior year so she went to Princeton for math and science. It wasn't a standard program, but something set up specifically for her.
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I suspect Harv meant honors English not AP which is for grades 11 and 12 normally.  His duaghter is younger than my son who is going into 10th grade.

When and why did High school become so home work intensive?  Is it healthy to put our kids thru this?  That if they get even a few B’s that they won’t get into a good university.  Education is important but this is not healthy for these kids to have this pressure on them.
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Well Peetex is "rich" and unhappy so you guys are way ahead of him!
You have never even met me so how can you make such a ridiculous statement. I am very happy and having a great time.
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When and why did High school become so home work intensive?  Is it healthy to put our kids thru this?  That if they get even a few B’s that they won’t get into a good university.  Education is important but this is not healthy for these kids to have this pressure on them.
This happened a while ago, it wasn't this way when I was in high school. It was getting more competitive when my kids went through high school and it's over the top now. It happened with a silent influx of Asian and Indian students who's work ethic and family values are so much more than today's normal American family. How many of these kids do you see in ski racing (I saw only one). These kids are focusing on Music and academics. There are so many of them with perfect scores and grades that the Ivys have been accused of discriminating against them, if they didn't than that's all they would have. This is the world we live in today.

Now does your kid have to compete at that level to be successful or happy. No.
But getting into the 9.9% for a white kid when he now has to compete with the influx of kids from other cultures who's parents who have put  much much higher value on academic excellence and a professional career track will be harder and if that immigrant kids parents are lower middle class and with top academic credentials they not only have a better chance of getting in, they also will get a free ride - that's the dilemma of the 9.9%.

With a few Bs and moderately good SAT scores your kid will likely get into any NYS school (with the exception of Binghamton or maybe Stonybrook) but they won't get a lot if any academic aid. They may be happier but they may also end up with the stress of student loans depending on your means. With a good amount of AP credits your kid could graduate in 3 years saving 25% of his undergraduate tuition costs.

Then there is grad school and you don't even want to look at what happens if they choose a med school route - yousa, that is hyper competitive.  
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Now is your school district really offering AP classes to 11 year olds?  That is nuts!
The earliest I have seen an AP class offered is 10th grade. Taking and passing an AP class does not get you college credit, getting a high enough score on the AP exam may get you credit. Some schools don't take AP credits or put a limit on them. Some set the score on the AP tests pretty high to be accepted. Some kids will take the course in college even though they passed the course and got the credit if the course is fundamental to their major.

I seem to recall your kid may consider engineering, if that's the case AP physics and BC calculus should be in his future.
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