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The Final Cut

tjf1967
We have one last trail to cut over on Lookout.  

People who ski whiteface have been looking at the lay out for years.  From what I hear( a lot more than I remember) Their seems to be some flexibility as to how the last trail is cut.  

In my perfect whitey scenario I would like to see breakin skier left off of Hoyts as soon as you can possibly get under the lift safely.   The trail  would then loop back and forth all the way down the ridge  line into the  valley.  Make it a very gentle slop so it could be skied by intermediate skiers.   keep it thin so the snow will accumulate( Mad River).  have it run out back into Hoyts where they are putting that cut in for the cat.   What great new england trail that would be for the intermediate, for the experts all in between the cut backs are glades to be exploited.   WOW that would be nice.

Others ideas?

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campgottagopee
Sounds good to me. Anytime you can cut a trail and get some tree shots to boot is cool in my book. Maybe we'll map 'er out on our tour this year.

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ausable skier
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As i just posted on the wind topic Lookout has serious issues holding snow so utilizing Hoyt's at all does not make any sense since it holds snow the worst of any trail at WF.  

The new trail needs to stay on the marginally NE facing aspect that is to the skiers left of the lift.  It proablaby should run into the bottom of Lookout Below to stay in the shade as much as possible.  The bottom portion of Hoyt's is going to always be the 1st trail with snowmaking to close each season.

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tjf1967
Hoyts is not going to melt out any quicker than Lower Sky.  Its the same layout.    

If you take a ride up and look to your right you can see all the snow that bowls into that canyon.  

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ausable skier
tjf1967 wrote
Hoyts is not going to melt out any quicker than Lower Sky.  Its the same layout.    

If you take a ride up and look to your right you can see all the snow that bowls into that canyon.
I disagree.  Lower Sky is in a valley in the shade.  The top section of lower Sky where it melts first faces a different direction than the lower section of Hoyt's.  Hoyts catches more of the afternoon sun.  Hoyts is also lower in elevation for that section.

Other than bringing it back into Hoyt's I think we are talking about the same thing - there is a small bowl on a different aspect skiers left of the lift where the snow blows in and is out of the sun.  I also agree there is some good glade potential there as well.  This may be the first time You and I agree about anything.

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mattchuck2
I think that putting a new trail in the immediate vicinity of Hoyt's is a perfect solution. It would best if it were close enough to benefit from snowmaking blowover from Hoyt's (particularly because so much money was spent installing all that snowmaking).

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ScottyJack
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WF will stock pile man made to help manage the melt zone on the bottom of Hoyts.  Skiers middle to left will have sun issues but skiers right is shaded.  

New trail is proposed to start from Wilmington just a short distance down the trail from the lift drop.  When riding the lift focus looker rights along the ridge line, look for the tallest two balsams that stick up like field goal posts only much further apart.  The new trail will drop in somewhere in between these tall balsams.  It is limited to 80 feet wide so it will be narrow and twist fairly straight down the fall line connecting back onto Hoyt's in the lower fat zone.  

Connecting the new trail to Lookout would result in skier collisions...      think about it.  


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ScottyJack
good point MC2.  plus a ton of natural snow is blown into that bowl from prevailing winds.  its deep in there!

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tjf1967
It would be nice zig zag aross that canyon.  A straight down the fall line trail will allow the snow to blow up the shoot and over to Stowe....and it will be harder

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ScottyJack
But this is WF not K-Mart or Okemo!!  WF skiers slide the fall line!

Prevailing wind is across the bowl so snow will mostly blow over the ridge from W-trail, some from Lake Placid side and at times from Hoyts.

It has modest curves proposed, not talking Excelsior level but certainly not fall line like Empire...

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