What Makes a Mountain Ski Big or Small?

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What Makes a Mountain Ski Big or Small?

snoloco
Coming off a tangent in the Belleayre gondola thread, I figured this would be a good discussion for a separate thread.

To me, things that make a mountain "ski big" are many lift sections or starting points, long runs, and a low density trail layout.

Whiteface has only slightly more skiable acreage than Windham, but anyone who's skied them both would say that Whiteface skis way bigger.  It's all about the layout here.  After taking the Facelift up, there's another lift that you have to go up to reach the summit.  There are three separate mountains and two of them are over 4000 feet.  The runs are much longer and more challenging at Whiteface.

Belleayre has three different starting points, but the runs are rather short and the trails are very closely spaced, making the place ski small.  Mountain Creek has less acreage and vertical, but skis bigger due to the time it takes to traverse across the whole mountain, and the relative separation of the four peaks.

I've lived in New York my entire life.
Z
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Z
Continuous pitch is the only thing that matters to me.  

Platty and  McCaulley both have that which makes them ski much bigger than they are.

"It is better to go skiing and think of God, than go to church and think of sport."
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D.B. Cooper
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How about this:
- open terrain
- sustained vertical
- acreage
- # of high speed lifts
- variety....terrain (from novice to cliffs), lifts, base lodges
- how late in the season it's open.

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Harvey
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IMO high speed lifts make the mountain smaller.

"If it's my mountain, I'm installing a fixed grip and telling the lifties to stuff the beginners into chairs as aggressively as they have to to keep it going full speed." —Brownski
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D.B. Cooper
Really?  I couldn't believe how much vert we were skiing out west with all the HS lifts.  Solid 20-25k/day.

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Harvey
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It sounds like daily vert is the key to "big" for you.

I personally don't care too much about vert.

Whiteface is the biggest mountain in NY with a lift on it. I ski more vert in an hour at Whiteface vs Gore.

But when both are fully open Gore feels bigger to me.  I guess that means I favor the horizontal.

"If it's my mountain, I'm installing a fixed grip and telling the lifties to stuff the beginners into chairs as aggressively as they have to to keep it going full speed." —Brownski
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marznc
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D.B. Cooper wrote
Really?  I couldn't believe how much vert we were skiing out west with all the HS lifts.  Solid 20-25k/day.
Have you skied Alta and Snowbird?  If so, which feels "bigger" to you?  Snowbird has more high speed lifts, plus the tram.

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tjf1967
Snow bird for sure.

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PeeTex
Snowbird feels like the biggest Mtn in the US to me.

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tjf1967
Ever been to big sky? That's the biggest to me but I have not been to Jackson yet.

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