2017 Whiteface UMP Amendment

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Re: 2017 Whiteface UMP Amendment

Hoser
Ok so two new lifts from the base both starting around the current Bear life.  

Then a third new lift from the base of kids campus to where?    Midlodge?   Old or new lodge?   Or does the kids campus lift go to base if the summit lift and lookout lift?  
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Re: 2017 Whiteface UMP Amendment

snoloco
No, they threw that idea out since there's no way to build a lift there without going up and over the W Trail ridge.

The new Bear Den lift will be a fixed quad with conveyor loading.  Probably the same for Bear.

Scotty makes an important safety point with regard to having an intermediate option off Approach.  Here's the scenario:  Joey on rental skis sees a gondola at the base and jumps on it having no idea whether there is a trail up there he can ski back down.  Upon reaching the top, he sees that Approach looks like an fun easy and scenic trail.  Without obvious and intimidating "Expert Only" signs (that they think would offend intermediates), he has no reason to assume it leads to only expert terrain.  After all he didn't read the trail map.  A couple minutes later and you've got a total beginner on Mountain Run, a danger to both himself and everyone else on the trail.  Best case scenario is he power wedges down the whole thing ruining the snow for everyone else.  Worst case scenario is he loses it and falls, becoming a human missile and colliding with another skier, seriously injuring or killing them both.
I've lived in New York my entire life.
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Re: 2017 Whiteface UMP Amendment

Hoser
Or scenario C, he never went up the Gondi but ended up in CA
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Re: 2017 Whiteface UMP Amendment

snoloco
The Sacramento jokes are really getting old.  Please stop.
I've lived in New York my entire life.
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Re: 2017 Whiteface UMP Amendment

Face4Me
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ScottyJack wrote
And an intermediate trail to all expert terrain creates a lot of problems.
While I don't believe it's a law, at least not that I could find, it's a widely accepted practice, that all trails will have an option to get you to the "bottom" of the mountain on trails of equal or easier difficulty rating.

That's why Approach and On Ramp at Whiteface are rated as blacks and not blues ... once you start down them, there's no way to get down on a blue or green trail ... you eventually have to transition to black rated trails.

If they add these blue trails off of Approach, I would expect that the difficulty rating of Approach itself will be changed to blue as well.
It's easy to be against something ... It's hard to be for something!
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Brownski
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snoloco wrote
The Sacramento jokes are really getting old.  Please stop.
Nope. Keep them coming please. Still makes me chuckle.
"You want your skis? Go get 'em!" -W. Miller
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Hoser
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The jokes will stop when an answer is provided   Until then it’s still entertaining.   Same with the Gore overnight experience
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campgottagopee
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snoloco wrote
The Sacramento jokes are really getting old.  Please stop.
Sorry StickInTheMudSnoreLoco --- They will always be funny --- nobody cares what you want
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campgottagopee
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Hoser wrote
   Same with the Gore overnight experience
No doubt. Someone is creepin' on NYS owned ski areas
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Re: 2017 Whiteface UMP Amendment

ScottyJack
Real experts ski Cloudspin all season on natural snow and dont want that changed!  
I ride with Crazy Horse!
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ScottyJack
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Dang face,

I always thought approach was a blue...  it’s a black?
I ride with Crazy Horse!
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ScottyJack
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Hoser wrote
Then a third new lift from the base of kids campus to where?    Midlodge?   Old or new lodge?   Or does the kids campus lift go to base if the summit lift and lookout lift?
Realignment of existing kid campus lift. It will move to the right to be on side of trail and go a little higher to access an area with slope that will support an additional beginner trail.
I ride with Crazy Horse!
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Hoser
Oh ok thanks.   Yep Approach is a Black.  
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Re: 2017 Whiteface UMP Amendment

snoloco
Obviously it's rated black, but looks and skis like a blue and would be rated blue if it didn't lead to only black terrain.  If you don't look at the trail sign you'd have no idea what it led to.  That's the reason that joeys end up on Mountain Run.
I've lived in New York my entire life.
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Hoser
Obviously it’s not obvious or the question would not have been asked here.  
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Re: 2017 Whiteface UMP Amendment

D.B. Cooper
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snoloco wrote
The new Bear Den lift will be a fixed quad with conveyor loading.  Probably the same for Bear.
How do you know that?  Has the RFP been posted?
snoloco wrote
Best case scenario is he power wedges down the whole thing ruining the snow for everyone else.  Worst case scenario is he loses it and falls, becoming a human missile and colliding with another skier, seriously injuring or killing them both.
Best case scenario is that a brave orange coat guides him to mid station where he downloads safely.

Worst case scenario....well, I've known skilled skiers and boarders who have become a human missile.  Fortunately no serious injuries.
Sent from the driver's seat of my car while in motion.
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Re: 2017 Whiteface UMP Amendment

Harvey
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snoloco wrote
joeys
Please define.
"You just need to go at that shit wide open, hang on, and own it." —Camp
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Re: 2017 Whiteface UMP Amendment

Brownski
Harvey wrote
snoloco wrote
joeys
Please define.
Clueless tools from mountain creek
"You want your skis? Go get 'em!" -W. Miller
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Lateski
“Clueless tools” is right on, however they exist and thrive on all mountains, just look out for typical baby kangaroo behavior and you have a Joey sighting.  Windham has a huge Joey population.
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