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I'm sure this is normal right?

John Morales Discusses King Tide Floods in South Florida
In a world in which global warming is heating the ocean as well as melting ice caps and glaciers, the rising sea is driving salt-water onto the streets of the city.
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Sorry too busy flying around the country adding to the CO2 levels and supporting the economy to keep up with this.

To summarize.  
Matt is a scientist follow the money denier.  I guess he thinks human nature doesn't exist for scientists.  Publish or perish ever heard of that?  97% of the grant money comes with a list of Obama issued conditions find warming or no gravy train for you.  Peer review doesn't exist on this topic any longer becuase if you do no grant money for you in the future.  It's a self fulfilling prophecy.  The message is clear.  

What has to have the ones that have sold out crapping in thier pants if Trump gets elected the rats will be jumping ship becuase the bread will be buttered on the other side.  All of a sudden the trends will be reversed and the real data will come out otherwise do they would be Fired.  I'd bet on it.  Some may be true belivers like Matt but the capitalists will change thier tunes.  My estimate is more than 75% of scientists also like to eat, pay mortgages, etc etc.

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Coach Z wrote
Sorry too busy flying around the country adding to the CO2 levels and supporting the economy to keep up with this.

To summarize.  
What has to have the ones that have sold out crapping in thier pants if Trump gets elected the rats will be jumping ship becuase the bread will be buttered on the other side.  All of a sudden the trends will be reversed and the real data will come out otherwise do they would be Fired.  I'd bet on it.  Some may be true belivers like Matt but the capitalists will change thier tunes.  My estimate is more than 75% of scientists also like to eat, pay mortgages, etc etc.
Again, I'd like to bet you a pair of Volkl skis that this doesn't happen. It's complete nonsense that a bunch of people would change their research 180 degrees. That's not how science works. What might happen is that a future president Trump or Bush or Rubio might zero out research into global warming at the behest of the Koch brothers and other energy interests.
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mattchuck2 wrote
Coach Z wrote
Sorry too busy flying around the country adding to the CO2 levels and supporting the economy to keep up with this.

To summarize.  
What has to have the ones that have sold out crapping in thier pants if Trump gets elected the rats will be jumping ship becuase the bread will be buttered on the other side.  All of a sudden the trends will be reversed and the real data will come out otherwise do they would be Fired.  I'd bet on it.  Some may be true belivers like Matt but the capitalists will change thier tunes.  My estimate is more than 75% of scientists also like to eat, pay mortgages, etc etc.
Again, I'd like to bet you a pair of Volkl skis that this doesn't happen. It's complete nonsense that a bunch of people would change their research 180 degrees. That's not how science works. What might happen is that a future president Trump or Bush or Rubio might zero out research into global warming at the behest of the Koch brothers and other energy interests.
Paging Goerge Soros.  Mr Soros your liberal guilt money is required to fund the cool aid drinkers cause sir.

Matt you need to learn how the world really works.  The money men holding the purse strings tell you what they want the research to prove then you go make sure you keep getting paid.  This is no longer science its political.  Charts are easy to manipulate and if your data is not working just F with your model to get the result Obama or Soros want and are paying for.

Personally I won't vote for Trump but I'm sure he keeps your side up at night crapping a brick.
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Personally I won't vote for Trump but I'm sure he keeps your side up at night crapping a brick.
If you actually think this, then you really are in the conservative bubble. I would LOVE to see Trump as your nominee.
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I don't think Trump could win against Hillary. Against Bernie I would have to vote for Trump though he would as this country cannot become socialist.  I actually hope Bernie gets nominated just as you are hoping for Trump.  The general election would be an epic landslide red win.

What I meant is Trump actually getting elected is your worse nightmare probably equal to Bernie getting elected.  Neiter is getting nominated so it's a mute point.  
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Neiter is getting nominated so it's a mute point.
Don't you mean "it's a moot point"?
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  Tesla is the best car company  
LMFAO!

I know a guy who was an upper level executive for this "best car company", he would strongly disagree.
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MC2 5678F589
campgottagopee wrote
mattchuck2 wrote
  Tesla is the best car company  
LMFAO!

I know a guy who was an upper level executive for this "best car company", he would strongly disagree.
Just going by Motor Trend the last couple of years. And the cool technology they have in all of their cars. I really want to drive one.

What's bad about it? Thinking about buying stock (more for the battery stuff than the car stuff, but I'd like to hear what the problems are).
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Buy stocks with your head not your heart.  They are losing money and forward looking p/e at end of 2016 is an absurd 96.

I'd look at the battery companies in that space.
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Maybe he doesn't want to talk about it
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i know 3 people that have teslas ..the overall review is meh...
they are incredibly fast off the line
the interior is blah for 100k car
driving long range is still a pain

i still think it's the future..
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mattchuck2 wrote
campgottagopee wrote
mattchuck2 wrote
  Tesla is the best car company  
LMFAO!

I know a guy who was an upper level executive for this "best car company", he would strongly disagree.
Just going by Motor Trend the last couple of years. And the cool technology they have in all of their cars. I really want to drive one.

What's bad about it? Thinking about buying stock (more for the battery stuff than the car stuff, but I'd like to hear what the problems are).
I know what you meant. I truly laughed my balls off tho just thinking about my buddy and what he might say. He was in REALLY on the ground floor so I'm sure the horror stories he shared have somewhat subsided.

I just think the automobile industry is miles and miles away from going to electric cars. Nissan has had that stupid Leaf out for a few years now and they are complete boat anchors when it comes to retail. Sure you get some whackoo that wants one just to be "green", imo those people have more money that brains. Until all these alternative energy cars can be brought in line money wise with gas cars I think they will always play second fiddle. The just don't make dollars and cents right now. Maybe someday, but you'll have to be able to drive father than around the block before that happens.
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whoa!  good stuff.  avoided this thread based on its boring title.  Def a mistake.  Very enlightening and entertaining.

Obvi, the enlightenment coming from Pee Tex and MC2 and the entertainment from our boy Coach Zealot!  
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Obama's 97 % lie

As usual the O-man is lying thru his teeth for political gain.

http://business.financialpost.com/fp-comment/climate-change-consensus-among-the-misinformed-is-not-worth-much

It turns it that 97% claim is much more like 50/50 but was intended to try to stifle debate and make cool aid drinkers like Matt feel morally superior.  Matt read the whole thing before commenting please.
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Don't waist your breath, as Robert Heinlein said - Never try to teach a pig to sing.
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Obama's 97 % lie

As usual the O-man is lying thru his teeth for political gain.

http://business.financialpost.com/fp-comment/climate-change-consensus-among-the-misinformed-is-not-worth-much

It turns it that 97% claim is much more like 50/50 but was intended to try to stifle debate and make cool aid drinkers like Matt feel morally superior.  Matt read the whole thing before commenting please.
I read the whole thing. First of all, maybe the url of "business.financialpost.com" should be kind of a hint that this site has an agenda, but let's give them the benefit of the doubt. I don't really know what study they're referring to when they say this:

The most highly-cited paper supposedly found 97 per cent of published scientific studies support man-made global warming. But in addition to poor survey methodology, that tabulation is often misrepresented. Most papers (66 per cent) actually took no position.
But this isn't really damning evidence anyway, since most scientific papers don't actually take a position. They say things like "We found that warming is occurring at a rate of x degrees per year, more research is needed to determine cause." Most scientific papers don't take specific positions themselves (because why would they? It's better to make observations, document the observations, and try to come up with solutions to the problem. That's what we did for CFCs, DDT and Acid rain, and we found solutions to those crises, and now the affected areas are recovering).

What the claim is: 97% of scientists who publish on climate change agree with human caused global warming (not meteorologists, not random people off the street, scientists who study on the issue agree. This is important because it's like a survey on evolution. If you poll the american public, only 31% of people believe it. But if you poll evolutionary scientists (people who know what the fuck they're talking about), I'm sure the consensus is somewhere around 100% (the consensus among all scientists appears to be 97%).

Okay, so, we've established the point that we're talking about climate scientists who've published on the subject, not a bunch of random assholes. If you don't like that survey mentioned in that article (still not sure which one they're referring to), here's one from 2009. And Here's one from 2010. Here's one from 2013. And finally, here's one from 2014 that comes up with 90%, but notes that the scientists that disagreed had questions about their particular expertise (published in a wide variety of fields unrelated to climate science).

The fact remains: Of climate scientists who study and publish on the subject, 97% agree on human caused global warming. To deny this is the case is just plain wrong. Like the "Hillary Clinton is going to jail" thing you keep saying, It's just meant for propaganda and misdirection and it's a dumb thing to say.

And finally, because you're going to loop back to that argument that says "of course these scientists agree, their funding is at stake" I'm just going to repeat myself and say that there is far more financial and fame benefit to being the one guy who finds out that climate change is not happening than there is to being the 10,000th person to find out that it is happening.
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