They already do this. Not a billion dollars, but pretty hefty sums: http://news.mit.edu/2015/jay-whitacre-wins-lemelson-mit-prize-for-revolutionary-battery-0915 http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/jeff-dahn-herzberg-medal-battery-research-1.3965541 (Those were just the results of a quick Google search. I'm sure there are more) Friedman is a wanker: http://www.eschatonblog.com/2012/04/one-true-wanker-of-decade.html |
Nothing more "credible" than a web site that looks like this.....
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Mine doesn't look like that. I think they're just Google ads. Looking for weight loss solutions lately DB? How about responding to the valid criticisms:
And of course, the "suck on this" moment: Consider him a smart, reasoned journalist if you want, but holy shit: this guy was one of the biggest Iraq War cheerleaders of all. "Suck On This"!?!!? What kind of person thinks that way? |
interesting article on batteries and EV's and the impact of cold temps on them
https://www.designnews.com/electronics-test/keeping-electric-cars-moving-even-when-it-s-cold-out/54521268156960?cid=nl.x.dn14.edt.aud.dn.20170614.tst004t
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I suspected this was the case - Making batteries is a very un green undertaking.
https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2017/06/19/study-tesla-car-battery-production-releases-as-much-co2-as-8-years-of-driving-on-petrol/amp/
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I saw a show on NBC tonight. Panels are getting cheaper and poor families in southeast asia can buy, for $400, one panel a converter and a battery that will run a lightbulb from dark until midnight. For these people it takes months or years to save $400.
It is changing lives, you can see it in the smiles of mothers who can cook for their family after the father gets home from work. They can eat together. These families are skipping over fossil fuels and the grid.
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You are starting to see simple systems like that at state camp grounds. They should work fine for lights and charging phones, but not as well for pumps and other motor driven stuff. A simple system like that provides a lot of value in underdeveloped economies, but it won't support high power uses like irrigation or cooking unless you can network a lot of them together and control voltage and current.
I think you will see a lot of developing countries skip the whole copper telephone network and just develop a broadband system, but once all those rural third worlders get iphones and start ordering air conditioners on Amazon, there will be a strong political demand to build out the electric distribution system. That's a lot like what happened in the US, when the federal government wired the whole country for telephone and electricity during the depression.
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I wasn't saying that model was scalable to the first world.
It's more like a lesson in marginal utility. Your first 100 watts (amps? volts? whatever) are far more valuable than your last. When you live simply your impact is often less and small changes can make a big difference. I once saw a theory by an anthropologist who put the idea of "advanced society" on it's ear. By traditional definition advanced societies create lot of waste. His theory was that the less waste, the more advanced.
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Fossil Fuel subsidies come to $5 Trillion a year (6.5% of Global GDP):
https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2017/aug/07/fossil-fuel-subsidies-are-a-staggering-5-tn-per-year |
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Our tax dollars are going to fossil fuel companies to help the destroy winter and skiing, but camp is worried about the 40,000 coal mining jobs left in a country of 350 million people. |
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I don't wander over here to the OT very often but figured I would throw this out there:
https://news.utexas.edu/2017/02/28/goodenough-introduces-new-battery-technology This technology if it can be commercialized is a game changer. There are also lots of very exciting things happening in NYS in regards to grid scale energy storage, energy efficiency, renewables, grid 2.0, combined heat and power systems, offshore wind etc. |
I have been looking around for what they are doing to do to get P.R back up and going with Electricity. It seems like the are going to rebuild the same old shit system that was there. We have a great opportunity to build an entire system that uses fossil fuels as a back up to renewables and I think we are going to squander it. They need to give someone like Musk the reigns on this project. Perry is talking about nuclear which is just that talk never going to happen. It takes to long. Micro grids seems like the answer. Faster more independent of each other and probably cheaper in the short run and long run.
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Great thinking TJ. Sad to squander the opportunity too.
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TJF, I agree with everything you said.
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Also chiming in to agree with tjf, but I will say that Musk has done some good:
https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/10/19/16431312/elon-musk-richard-branson-clean-energy-puerto-rico-solar-batteries-microgrid |
Puerto Rico's choice is to either rebuild what they had and get 95% of the country back on line by maybe February, or spend 5 years or more building a super efficient, renewable experimental microgrid system.
Which would you chose? mm, p.e.
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Noticed a little addendum to your signature |