Big Tupper Prospects Looking Bleak

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D.B. Cooper D.B. Cooper
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MC2 5678F589 wrote
If ORDA's mission is to empower depressed areas of the state through sports, NY State should buy Big Tupper, sink a couple million into lift, lodge & snowmaking upgrades, then sell it in 10-15 years. Tupper Lake is one of those Upstate NY towns that really seems to struggle (that grocery store across from where they do Woodsman Days is one of the saddest places in the state). I think a huge infusion of money would be pretty effective (more effective than a "Mountain Coaster" at Mount Van Hoevenberg, imo).
Agreed, 100%.
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D.B. Cooper wrote
MC2 5678F589 wrote
If ORDA's mission is to empower depressed areas of the state through sports, NY State should buy Big Tupper, sink a couple million into lift, lodge & snowmaking upgrades, then sell it in 10-15 years. Tupper Lake is one of those Upstate NY towns that really seems to struggle (that grocery store across from where they do Woodsman Days is one of the saddest places in the state). I think a huge infusion of money would be pretty effective (more effective than a "Mountain Coaster" at Mount Van Hoevenberg, imo).
Agreed, 100%.
ORDA's track record in North Creek is horrible. Why would that change in Tupper Lake?
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Imagine if they were not there what it would look like.
campgottagopee campgottagopee
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I'd be more concerned with NC if Barton Mine wasn't there.
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tjf1967 wrote
Imagine if they were not there what it would look like.
Yep.
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MC2 5678F589 wrote
tjf1967 wrote
Imagine if they were not there what it would look like.
Yep.
http://forum.nyskiblog.com/The-latest-ORDA-Screwup-tp4142791p4144577.html
x10003q wrote
    ORDA took over Gore in 1984. Has North Creek really seen any economic benefits from ORDA running Gore?
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I looked to see if North Creek was being helped by all of the millions they poured into Gore and found this:
 
  Population - 2018      1,351
  Population - 2010 1,770
  Population - 2000 2,082
  Population - 1990 2,412
  Pop. 1990 to Now -43.99%


Holy shit.
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Point stands.

Imagine how much worse it could be.

Check out the population stats for Hamilton County.

Or, Tupper Lake itself:

Benny Profane Benny Profane
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endoftheline wrote
. I'll keep playing all the Lottos and if I win big, Big T will reopen. .
This has been my plan for the last 15 years, but somehow, I haven't won yet.

If ORDA's mission is to empower depressed areas of the state through sports, NY State should buy Big Tupper, sink a couple million into lift, lodge & snowmaking upgrades, then sell it in 10-15 years. Tupper Lake is one of those Upstate NY towns that really seems to struggle (that grocery store across from where they do Woodsman Days is one of the saddest places in the state). I think a huge infusion of money would be pretty effective (more effective than a "Mountain Coaster" at Mount Van Hoevenberg, imo).
Sell it to whom? That's silly. If the private market wants nothing to do with it now, then why would it be interested 10-15 years from now? And why would the skiing market drive by Gore for another hour or so to get to a lessor mountain, even if it is all gussied up with new lifts?
As mentioned above, nobody even bothers to stay in North Creek after all of those millions. This would be classic pissing into the wind. The northeast ski market has been and will be shrinking. 10-15 years from now you will probably see the loss of a big Vermont hill or two.
funny like a clown
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Imagine how much worse it could be.

 
I don't see this.

People who live there are a hardy group, always have been and always will be. Certainly time changes everything but I have fond memories of that specific area of the Dacks. Still have family there. I never hear them complain.
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Many of these communities have gone from permanent residents to vacation homes. The decline in residents is not so alarming. Real estate is moving again in the North country.
Don't ski the trees, ski the spaces between the trees.
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