Biggest rip off mountain

Spongeworthy wrote

 You went once and had a bad experience because you encountered adverse weather conditions, the kind of thing that can happen anywhere. Just bad luck. We get it.

Glade Runner wrote

snoloco wrote

In my opinion, Jay Peak is the worst because of the crappy conditions.  Many would consider MC a ripoff for a similar reason, but it's close and I have a pass there, so it is a good value to me.

Jay Peak is only $49 if you have a pass to anywhere else.

riverc0il wrote

Glade Runner wrote

snoloco wrote

In my opinion, Jay Peak is the worst because of the crappy conditions.  Many would consider MC a ripoff for a similar reason, but it's close and I have a pass there, so it is a good value to me.

Jay Peak is only $49 if you have a pass to anywhere else.

Yea, but they still suck, have horrible snow, exaggerate their snow totals, have crappy terrain, ain't worth the long drive, blah blah blah blah blah...

Harvey wrote

I'd probably day trip Jay Peak if I lived in Albany NY.

snoloco wrote

Those who say I can't ski need to think again.  I have been on every lift, trail, and section at Hunter, Windham, and MC.  I have done the same at Gore except for some glades that were never open.

Those who say I can't ski need to think again.  I have been on every lift, trail, and section at Hunter, Windham, and MC.  I have done the same at Gore except for some glades that were never open.

snoloco wrote

Easy, it r*ins in Vermont during the winter.  Don't remember a season when I didn't ski in the r*in at least one day.  There is r*in at every mountain in the east sometime during the winter.  That doesn't happen in Utah due to elevation.  No r*in means that the snow won't melt out and freeze over like in the east.  Also, due to the high elevation, if the temperature gets above freezing, some of the snow will sublimate directly into water vapor and not soften up and freeze over like in the east.

Where I mostly ski (Mountain Creek) there is a constant freeze thaw every single night for the most part.  Highs in the 40's and lows in the 20's.  This means that you get a lot of ice on some days.  However, their grooming makes up for it and the conditions are usually pretty good on the South and Bear Peaks where I usually am.  Partly this is because of low lift capacity on South Peak where one HSQ serves massive trail acreage.  Problem is that because it is all terrain parks on that peak, you can't dump hoards and hoards of skiers up there, or the park will not be enjoyable.  This means that the lift won't be upgraded anytime soon and 15+ minute lift lines will remain the norm.

PowderAssassin wrote

Snoloco.... Any ski area can have a bad day. ESPECIALLY on the east coast where rain/fake snow reliance/overcrowded trails all contribute in turning the whole mountain into boiler plate. If you just up jay peak at random, then of course you have a chance of hitting horrible conditions as with any ec mountain.  They suck most of the time. I'd never hit up VT resorts unless it's snowed naturally. That's why I'd never waste my money on liftopia. I enjoy natural snow groomers. The fake stuck is all scratchy and hard. Most ec mountain goers wouldn't know good snow if it hit them in the face. Of course, you have to ask the question why NVT is so snow gun reliant when it supposedly gets only 150 inches less than alta....yes I know thaws, but NVT is an icebox and rarely thaws for a day or two(yeah it can even rain in utah though rare) in the middle of winter.

PowderAssassin wrote

snoloco wrote

Easy, it r*ins in Vermont during the winter.  Don't remember a season when I didn't ski in the r*in at least one day.  There is r*in at every mountain in the east sometime during the winter.  That doesn't happen in Utah due to elevation.  No r*in means that the snow won't melt out and freeze over like in the east.  Also, due to the high elevation, if the temperature gets above freezing, some of the snow will sublimate directly into water vapor and not soften up and freeze over like in the east.

Where I mostly ski (Mountain Creek) there is a constant freeze thaw every single night for the most part.  Highs in the 40's and lows in the 20's.  This means that you get a lot of ice on some days.  However, their grooming makes up for it and the conditions are usually pretty good on the South and Bear Peaks where I usually am.  Partly this is because of low lift capacity on South Peak where one HSQ serves massive trail acreage.  Problem is that because it is all terrain parks on that peak, you can't dump hoards and hoards of skiers up there, or the park will not be enjoyable.  This means that the lift won't be upgraded anytime soon and 15+ minute lift lines will remain the norm.

I know it rains in VT. I said that. lol Utah does get rain RARELY.
Also, it's not just the thaw freeze cycle. I've been at many mountains where they blow the fake crap night before and no thawing and it's not as good as the real stuff. It's hard and scratchy with a icy consistency. Not boiler plate, but bs compared to the real thing. Also, amount of skiers really affects conditions. The more skiers per sq foot an area sees, the more it turns icy. Places with night operations are the worst.

I have a question, can a groomer cut through boiler place....chop it up...and lay it down back as snow? Do they have to go real slow to do that? Because groomers tend to back the snow down way to hard/too much compacting

YUKON CORNELIUS wrote

 

You two idiots are going to break the internet. Holy shit.