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ml242

Re: Most important safety feature

PowderAssassin wrote

You're more likely to be injured skiing than driving to the mountain. Deaths are relatively rare, but look at even wachusett mountain. Google "wachusett mountain death".

I was shocked to find that the last one occurred in 2006 and that the skier was traveling at a high rate of uncontrolled speed!

http://www.thelandmark.com/news/2006-02-16/Princeton_News/064.html

With a mere 200k visits a year, I agree, we have to do something about this!

Thacheronix

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This site has me chuckling tonight. That is a very useful site Petronio

MC2 5678F589

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Thacheronix wrote

This site has me chuckling tonight. That is a very useful site Petronio

Agree

PowderAssassin

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2011
http://www.sentinelandenterprise.com/local/ci_17203226
2004
Teenage girl runs into tree
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/5017-Teenage-girl-dies-at-Wachusett-Mountain

Some of these are hard to even find. Nevermind all the serious injuries from running into a tree

Here's one non fatal...quite horrible. Leg amputation blog.

http://snowboardervstree.blogspot.com/p/story.html

I'm sure if these people were family and the deaths were preventable with nets you'd feel a little more emotionally connected and caring.

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witch hobble

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PowderAssassin wrote

industry plants

Funneh

witch hobble

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mattchuck2 wrote

I'm so old

Told ya you'd get used to it.

witch hobble

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I feel like the netting might be some sort of metaphor for the tangled web that the powder ass weaves. All of you EC gapers getting caught in it like flies.....or Texans in powder.

frk

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please snow so we can debate the snowmaking and grooming deficits of your favorite mountain. i say we register skiers and require a yearly licensing fee with testing.

ml242

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PowderAssassin wrote

I'm sure if these people were family and the deaths were preventable with nets you'd feel a little more emotionally connected and caring.

Maybe if I was a goober jong tourist hack that only skied once a year and had no idea about skiing and its relative risks.

Plus, you said deaths, not serious injuries. Way to move the goal posts. But what happens when someone gets tangled in the net while its snowing and you get a narsid.

Or the countless lawsuits where people say they were injured because of the nets.

Where does your nanny-state leave you then?

p.s. those memes are all hilarious.

PowderAssassin

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ml242 wrote

PowderAssassin wrote

I'm sure if these people were family and the deaths were preventable with nets you'd feel a little more emotionally connected and caring.

Maybe if I was a goober jong tourist hack that only skied once a year and had no idea about skiing and its relative risks.

Plus, you said deaths, not serious injuries. Way to move the goal posts. But what happens when someone gets tangled in the net while its snowing and you get a narsid.

Or the countless lawsuits where people say they were injured because of the nets.

Where does your nanny-state leave you then?

You could make same ridiculous argument about padding lift towers. Frivolous lawsuits exist no matter what. Less deaths/serious injuries = less potential liability. This is common sense. Why would you not want to prevent serious injuries? How is that moving the goal post. Same thing...SAFETY. It increases safey by netting it preventing deaths AND SERIOUS INJURY.

Harvey

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tBatt wrote

yaknow

Is that ya-know or yak-now?

Regardless I think it was our esteemed colleague Yanick Noah John from the SkiAdk thread who pointed out that once you start putting netting up all over the place, then the lawyers will go nuts if you get hurt in a spot without netting.

Like how you have to pad the lift towers and you can't open trails if every tower isn't padded, but you still have trees and snowguns and gapers everywhere to crash into. Maybe they could pad the gapers.*

*disclaimer: I am a gaper

"You just need to go at that shit wide open, hang on, and own it." —Camp

ml242

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It's called personal responsibility Pow, I think you should just get one of these.

Spongeworthy

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ml242 wrote

Or the countless lawsuits where people say they were injured because of the nets.

Spot on! And those lawsuits would be winners.

NO NETS!!!

"They don't think it be like it is, but it do." Oscar Gamble

Spongeworthy

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freeheeln wrote

PowderAssassin wrote

Ski areas should NET the edge of the trails

Putting up these nets would cause a drastic decrease in numbers of deaths.

gore was being progressive with the netting on chatimac , who knew

The netting on the right shoulder of Upper Chatiemac was the result of the idiots who skied off it 6 years ago looking for fresh pow in the trees, not knowing that they were heading for Bakers Mills and NOT back to the mountain. Their asses were saved by 2 ski patrollers - Jeff Palka was the one who schlepped back up the mountain, and I can't remember the name of the woman who stayed with the idiots and kept them from freezing to death.

"They don't think it be like it is, but it do." Oscar Gamble

Spongeworthy

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PowderAssassin wrote

What's the NUMBER 1 cause of death at ski areas? A skier at moderate speed on a trail running into the trees at the edge of a blue trail.

So, don't ski at the edge of a trail!

We had a thread last year about how some A+ expert skiers bought the farm skiing the edge. It changed my mind. So, don't do it. Tell your family. Tell your friends . . . that is if you have any and if you're not really a sockpuppet trolling this forum.

"They don't think it be like it is, but it do." Oscar Gamble

Glade Runner

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You keep asking why we would not want to save lifes. But the ski resorts are overcrowded as it is and we are overpopulated. We need to knock off some people somehow its like survival of the fittest. I say put more obstacles and more hazards on the trails so there's more deaths. This would scare begginners and intermediates from even coming out and crowding the resorts. With less people there it will save the resorts money by not having to install high-speed quads to keep up with crowds. Besides who wants nets on the side of trails don't you like to weave in an out of the edges of the trees on trails? after all that's where most of the powder ends up.

Petronio

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PeeTex

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To hopefully end this inane discussion I would suggest PA start a campaign to change NYS law. As it is, Article 18 section 103 basically states that ski areas are only required to mark off or pad man made objects. If nature put it there it is your responsibility to avoid it.

Don't ski the trees, ski the spaces between the trees.

Marcski

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You guys are feeding into his craziness. There is a greater chance of injury and death from driving to work than falling of a ski trail and striking a tree. For someone that doesn't ski the trees or apparently the sides of trails, I want to know when and where he slays powder. Lol.

PowderAssassin

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Marcski wrote

You guys are feeding into his craziness. There is a greater chance of injury and death from driving to work than falling of a ski trail and striking a tree. For someone that doesn't ski the trees or apparently the sides of trails, I want to know when and where he slays powder. Lol.

The idea that netting would create more lawsuits is ABSURD.

Again on to irrelevant car accident statistics....so why do you not wear a helmet driving? It will save lives and is more dangerous than skiing right? Helmets are proven to make a car accident more survivable. There's a reason NASCAR drivers wear them.

Places that actually have powder on a trail....yes nowhere to ski pow in this picture....right

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