News on the Stowe Stone Hut fire

nepa wrote

Joe Cuts wrote

http://www.skinet.com/skiing/articles/burtons-son-responsible-burning-down-stone-hut

The good news, Gardner reports, is that donations have been pouring in, and Vermont’s Forest, Parks and Recreation commissioner expects the historic structure to be rebuilt.

Pouring in is a bit of an overstatement... I heard less than 5K in individual donations so far.... for a roughly 250K replacement cost.

250K ? Are they replacing it with a full amenity place

First - I never knew Burton's last name was Carpenter. Learned something new on the internets.

Second - his estimated net worth is $100 million. I hope the only reason he  hasn't yet pledged to have the hut rebuilt is that his lawyers are working it quietly to make sure there are no lawuits or contingent claims or any crap like that.

snoloco wrote

Harvey wrote

This caught my attention:

"They learned later that night that the family friends would not be staying in the 80-year-old structure after all. Worried about the possibility of a fire, they considered hiking up to investigate, but “figured if there was a fire, it had already happened,” according to investigators."

This seems to imply that they had a pretty good idea that the way they left things was a fire hazard and were counting on someone showing up to disarm that hazard.  That is a bit hard to fathom.

That's why I said what I said about suing them.  They clearly had an idea that there was a fire hazard, but chose not to report it.  They should be paying for the full cost to rebuild it, and the lost revenue from people who had reservations that didn't get to stay there because it was burnt down.

It seems pretty likely that they will pay the full cost to rebuild it.  

If someone is giving you exactly what you want, do you punch them in the nose just because they fucked up?

Usually you try to prove negligence to hold someone responsible. If those responsible are stepping up to pay the cost, what do you gain by suing them?  Maybe drive an employer out of NoVT?

The contributions pouring in thing is about saving face. Whatever.

I don't get it. Did your dad punish you to the max every time you screwed up?

skimore wrote

250K ? Are they replacing it with a full amenity place

I would suspect that the historical aspect of the structure will cause a significant increase in red tape.  It's the government.  Bathrooms cost that much in some systems.

We'll, if he hung the threat of leaving Vermont in lieu of payment, that pretty much sounds like corrupt extortion to me.

Trumped!

I don't like favoritism for the rich.  Just don't see suing here.

Benny - if you were the VT AG would you go after it?

Aww, no. Jake is a cool guy who's had a rough time of it lately. I might just make a few calls and say, dudes, cut it out and play fair, OK? And teach those kids how not to be dumbasses. You know, firewood far away from fire. Dumbasses.

Oh good. I thought worlds were colliding there for a minute.

Who would be the plaintiff anyway?? Who owned the hut? Is it on US National Forest Land or Vt. State Forest? Who built it? The CCC?

It will be rebuilt...privately funded.   No lawsuit.
 

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2016/02/25/burton-pledges-funds-cabin-burned-his-sons/80917612/

Harvey wrote

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2016/02/25/burton-pledges-funds-cabin-burned-his-sons/80917612/

I guess his sons didn't inherit Jake's intelligence.

Marcski wrote

Harvey wrote

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2016/02/25/burton-pledges-funds-cabin-burned-his-sons/80917612/

I guess his sons didn't inherit Jake's intelligence.

More on the fire from Stowe Today.

That's pretty funny. Guess the Carpenters truly are Vermonts luckiest family

Update on the stone hut fire. Looks like Jake and his family are doing the right thing.
http://www.stowetoday.com/stowe_reporter/news/local_news/carpenters-come-through-for-stone-hut/article_037458d4-12c5-11e6-9eb4-2f010f82ff36.html?mode=jqm

Happy ending time. This is old news now but I missed it in November
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/local/vermont/2016/11/01/mt-mansfield-hut-gutted-fire-reopens/93103158/

Brownski wrote

 Looks like Jake and his family are doing the right thing.

Does "doing the right thing" mean they wont be rigging the "lottery" anymore so that they "win" the #1 most in-demand week of the ski season year-after-year?

BenedictGomez wrote

Brownski wrote

 Looks like Jake and his family are doing the right thing.

Does "doing the right thing" mean they wont be rigging the "lottery" anymore so that they "win" the #1 most in-demand week of the ski season year-after-year?

Good question. That stinks to high heaven. I was just referring to the rebuild

Maybe this event may has shed enough light on that to change it. Maybe.