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PeeTex
I am disgusted with Ryan Lochte. Maybe I think it is what American society has become. Sure, you can bust up someone else's property than try to lie your way out of it. It's OK, our role models, our leaders do it all the time so therefore we can do it too. What the hell is happening? We are loosing all our morality, all our values. When we have leaders in the highest office bold face lie for all to see and everybody knows it and a huge portion of the population just doesn't give a shit - what does that tell you about where we are headed, what we will expect of our children? My father would scold us or ground us if we committed some offense, but if he ever caught us in a lie it was the razor strap on a bare ass. I got it twice - that was enough for me.
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raisingarizona
Who the hell is Ryan Lochte?
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PeeTex
raisingarizona wrote
Who the hell is Ryan Lochte?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/08/19/ryan-lochte-apologizes-social-media/88991620/
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MC2 5678F589
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Trump just said he would never lie to you. You don't believe that? You've been defending him for months.

And more people seem to care about Gabby Douglas than Ryan Lochte:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57b5e76de4b034dc73262f93/amp

America gets worse when people defend Trump's obvious racism by claiming it's not racism (as you have done). America gets worse when a Political Party caters to the most vile white nationalists that the country has to offer so that they can get their tax cuts (as your party has done). America gets worse when people say that Trump's blatant lies, discrimination, secrecy, and authoritarianism are not important compared to what a lifelong public servant is doing on her private email (as you have claimed).

Get off your high your high horse. You are part of the problem and you know it.

You can salvage some thread of dignity by admitting that maybe the "scandals" that Republicans are dredging up (IRS, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, emails, etc.) aren't actually scandals at all, and the real scandal is that we have a candidate for President trying to ride a wave of racism, xenophobia, white nationalism, and hate to victory, at the expense of every thinking person in the country. This is what it leads to:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-nation/wp/2016/08/19/white-supremacist-stabs-interracial-couple-after-seeing-them-kiss-at-bar-police-say/

You're part of the problem. In order to fix these issues, we can't tacitly approve of racism when a fucking Presidential candidate is shouting it from a bully pulpit.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/14/opinion/sunday/donald-trump-is-making-america-meaner.html
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PeeTex
If you can't support a candidate that makes racist statements and jestures you can't support Clinton. She has shown her racist tendencies many times, do I need to reference this again because you can't seem to remember. You seem to also forget that my support is still with Bernie
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raisingarizona
HAHA! Stupid kids. This reminds me a little of the Bill Johnson story.
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snoloco
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Trump is like the anti-Bernie.  I could not imagine how anyone who supported Bernie in the primary would be voting for Trump against Hillary.  And if you're voting purely on who's the least racist, Trump has a much longer, and more obvious history of racism than Hillary has.
I've lived in New York my entire life.
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snoloco
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mattchuck2 wrote
America gets worse when people defend Trump's obvious racism by claiming it's not racism (as you have done). America gets worse when a Political Party caters to the most vile white nationalists that the country has to offer so that they can get their tax cuts (as your party has done). America gets worse when people say that Trump's blatant lies, discrimination, secrecy, and authoritarianism are not important compared to what a lifelong public servant is doing on her private email (as you have claimed).
If Hillary is elected, it's really going to show the difference in the morality of the two parties when the Democrats nominated, and elected the first black president and first woman president in two consecutive administrations, while the Republicans nominated a clueless, blowhard, bullshitting asshole like Trump, who based his entire campaign off bigotry, hatred, xenophobia, and racism.
I've lived in New York my entire life.
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warp daddy
Sno sometimes you really make me laugh with your naievete , using the words MORALITY in the same context with any political party is just off the hook . these political parties are amoral, morasses of corruption, deceipt and backroom chicanery . I dealt with BOTH parties in both Washington and our state capitol . I annually made several trips to deal with issues , was on two gubenatorial appointed state level commissions and a stae level economic development cabinet ..

YOung man , you have MUCh to learn . THings are NEVER as they seem  both of These parties are ANYTHING bur MORAL
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snoloco
Can you stop writing in ALL CAPS.  Makes you seem like you're yelling.
I've lived in New York my entire life.
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warp daddy
They are used for Emphasis my young friend .p

BTW it is called typing , not speaking , yelling , poking or a shout out
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ml242
Warp, all-caps are for crazy people on the net. Learning is a life-long process, maybe sno is offering you a valuable lesson here.
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raisingarizona
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warp daddy wrote
Sno sometimes you really make me laugh with your naievete , using the words MORALITY in the same context with any political party is just off the hook . these political parties are amoral, morasses of corruption, deceipt and backroom chicanery . I dealt with BOTH parties in both Washington and our state capitol . I annually made several trips to deal with issues , was on two gubenatorial appointed state level commissions and a stae level economic development cabinet ..

YOung man , you have MUCh to learn . THings are NEVER as they seem  both of These parties are ANYTHING bur MORAL
 
And I'll add you shouldn't believe anything on tv news media is delivered without a self serving biased intention. These people are working for people that are connected with people if you get what I'm saying. This is why these arguments about this party vs. that party crack me up!
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warp daddy
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Wagara ,Mike !
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warp daddy
Lmao here , ml ! I knew that is how some see it. But frankly wgara .

Yeah i mispelled it in the previous post  hahahaha

Just having fun
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Gaper Rog
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snoloco wrote
it's really going to show the difference in the morality of the two parties when the Democrats nominated, and elected the first black president and first woman president in two consecutive administrations
Has it ever occurred to you that they did that by design so you would think the way you currently do?
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raisingarizona
Gaper Rog wrote
snoloco wrote
it's really going to show the difference in the morality of the two parties when the Democrats nominated, and elected the first black president and first woman president in two consecutive administrations
Has it ever occurred to you that they did that by design so you would think the way you currently do?
 
So you are saying that the wealthiest organized groups in the world would market their organization the same way corporations use psychology and the media to manipulate the public into buying products? The population doesn't fall for that sort of thing...do they?

That's ridiculous! Conspiracy I say!
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PeeTex
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Gaper Rog wrote
snoloco wrote
it's really going to show the difference in the morality of the two parties when the Democrats nominated, and elected the first black president and first woman president in two consecutive administrations
Has it ever occurred to you that they did that by design so you would think the way you currently do?
He has swallowed the bait - hook, line and sinker. It has nothing to do with race or gender and everything to do with making money.
Don't ski the trees, ski the spaces between the trees.
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PeeTex
And so it goes, we now have the "Clinton" defense for improper handling of classified material.
A sailor who had 6 photos of the engine room inside a nuclear sub (photos deemed as confidential/restricted) pleads guilty but uses the newly minted "Clinton" defense and ask for leniency and now gets it. The sentence which would normally be 5 years - the prosecutors asked for 6 - he gets one year and a $100 fine.  Hillary has lowered the bar for crimes against national security.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-08-19/sailor-denied-clinton-deal-gets-1-year-in-prison-for-6-photos-of-sub

Given the "Hillary" standard for what constitutes a crime involving handling of classified material - he should have walked, but he manned up and admitted guilt - something Hillary refused to do. I have more respect for this sailor than I do for Hillary.
Don't ski the trees, ski the spaces between the trees.
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