"At the time, I was writing a book about the politics of drug prohibition. I started to ask Ehrlichman a series of earnest, wonky questions that he impatiently waved away. 'You want to know what this was really all about?' he asked with the bluntness of a man who, after public disgrace and a stretch in federal prison, had little left to protect. 'The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.'"It's a stunning admission that appears to confirm the worst fears of opponents of the War on Drugs.
Scotty
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Yup. I couldn't agree more. What book is that from?
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Thought we had another Drug Legalization thread, but didn't find it in my short search. Anyway:
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On the ballot in Massachusetts in November. If this holds, there will finally be a place to buy legally east of Colorado (it's legal in DC, but there aren't stores like in CO, WA, etc.)
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sweet. Cali going for full legalization too this Nov. We be so much better off.
I ride with Crazy Horse!
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It certainly will create a massive amount of HIGH (pun intended) paying jobs
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In reply to this post by ScottySkis
So you want heroin to be legalized? |
There is a difference between legalizing and decriminalizing. The concept isn't completely black and white.
Drugs like heroin and crystal might need some different approaches but I think there are better ways than imprisoning addicts and branding them as felons for the rest of their lives. |
Yeah, they are not equal but I think there is a shift to as seeing drugs as the problem to see the people using them as having a problem, which is the right way to go. |
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What progress has been made via prohibition? Does prohibition make heroin addicts (or addiction) less harmful to you or I? I don't think it does. In fact, I think illegal heroin puts people who don't use drugs at greater risk of harm. Illegal heroin is actually more accessible to kids... don't forget... drug dealers don't ask for identification. I propose, we give people a choice when it comes to addiction. You are offered help with your addiction... or you are given free dope. If you don't choose help, then you have a place to get dope without harming anyone in order to feed your addiction. Manufacturing heroin and other types of drugs is cheap. We can save a lot of money in law enforcement and incarceration costs (both abstract and concrete), by legalizing, and offering help to those who want it, and an unlimited supply of dope to those who don't. |
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I have also read that manufacturing drugs such as heroin and then limiting amounts makes that drug actually safe. Some say that the only reason people overdose is because of dirty H you get from the streets.
I can't say I know much about heroin or meth (something I'm ok with :) ) but if you do some research it's pretty interesting to see how other first world democratic nations have dealt with drugs and their successes with these approaches. One thing I feel confident saying that I know, is that most of our beliefs we have been conditioned to believe. There are other perspectives. |
So what's your point? People are stupid assholes. She should go to jail because she put a kids life in danger.
It doesn't change the fact that the prison population has gone from 200k to 2.3M in 40 years, and that most of those people are in for weed. 1/3 black males born today will serve time if the laws aren't changed because we are criminalizing stupidity but not applying the law equally for all races. How is America the land of the free if we lock people up for things that don't hurt people? |
You knew my point the entire time |