Warriors on the side of the righteous!

Is this awesome!



Activists protesting Shell’s Arctic aspirations dangled from the St. Johns Bridge in Portland, Ore., on Wednesday

they stop this from leaving port!!!

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/07/greenpeace_protest_icebreaker.html

More like Eco-terrorists

What the hell do these people do for work that they can hand around on a damn rope all day

campgottagopee wrote

What the hell do these people do for work that they can hand around on a damn rope all day

Drive around in their SUVs and Beamers and bitch about how everybody else is Fing up the environment.

campgottagopee wrote

What the hell do these people do for work that they can hand around on a damn rope all day

their job is defending the righteous from the takers!

PeeTex wrote

More like Eco-terrorists

Interesting choice of words.  Terrorism is my opinion implies violence or destruction.  What type of violence or destruction do we see with this protest?  

These people are not terrorists. They are exercising their constitutional rights.  I guess it has come to the point where if you disagree with unbridled economic growth at the expense of the environment, you are a terrorist.

I know.  Even if we disagree with something, we should all just keep our mouths shut, and let the politicians and corporations destroy things as they see fit.  It really is the patriotic thing to do... anything less would terrorism.  

 

ScottyJack wrote

campgottagopee wrote

What the hell do these people do for work that they can hand around on a damn rope all day

their job is defending the righteous from the takers!

I hear ya, bro. I'd like to point out that I'm sure there are some hard working sum-bitches on that oil rig. Tax paying AMericans who depend on that job to feed their families.

nepa wrote

PeeTex wrote

More like Eco-terrorists

Interesting choice of words.  Terrorism is my opinion implies violence or destruction.  What type of violence or destruction do we see with this protest?  

These people are not terrorists. They are exercising their constitutional rights.  I guess it has come to the point where if you disagree with unbridled economic growth at the expense of the environment, you are a terrorist.

I know.  Even if we disagree with something, we should all just keep our mouths shut, and let the politicians and corporations destroy things as they see fit.  It really is the patriotic thing to do... anything less would terrorism.  

+1

I realize that the ski demographic has a lot of overlap with the conservative demographic (white, old, wealthy), but it always saddens me when I see people trying to do good and other people feeling the need to shit on them.

If you must complain, please target your anger at the people who are actually responsible for evil in this world (actual terrorists, corrupt police forces, crony capitalists, con artists, etc.) and not common citizens just trying to live meaningful lives.

mattchuck2 wrote

 
+1

I realize that the ski demographic has a lot of overlap with the conservative demographic (white, old, wealthy), but it always saddens me when I see people trying to do good and other people feeling the need to shit on them.

If you must complain, please target your anger at the people who are actually responsible for evil in this world (actual terrorists, corrupt police forces, crony capitalists, con artists, etc.) and not common citizens just trying to live meaningful lives.

Isn't that what the people on that rig are doing?? Trying to live meaningful lives??? What gives people the right to delay them from making a living.....because they don't approve of how they pay their taxes??

campgottagopee wrote

Isn't that what the people on that rig are doing?? Trying to live meaningful lives??? What gives people the right to delay them from making a living.....because they don't approve of how they pay their taxes??

Isn't that what a doctor at an abortion clinic is doing also?  Should we ban Pro-lifers from protesting at abortion clinics because Pro-Choicers think the doctors are just trying to live meaningful lives?

A protest is a protest.  It doesn't matter weather you agree with the cause or not.  If you don't like something, you have a right to cry about it in public.  It's called freedom.  It's what makes this country great!!

campgottagopee wrote

Isn't that what the people on that rig are doing?? Trying to live meaningful lives??? What gives people the right to delay them from making a living.....because they don't approve of how they pay their taxes??

^ I'm willing to bet that those guys are still getting paid for today. And they'll probably get paid tomorrow, too (or they can get some unemployment while looking for another drilling job, etc.). This is on Shell to figure out. I do have some compassion for people who need paycheck a to feed their families, but I don't think any one individual is losing money here (although I'm sure Shell will push that narrative to garner public sympathy).

But if you're implying that oil rig workers are drilling in the arctic because of their deep moral commitment to Shell Oil and their philosophical belief that all oil must be pumped out of every available crevice of the earth because $1.95 a gallon gasoline is a fundamental, God given right, then you're barking up the wrong tree.

nepa wrote

It's called freedom.  It's what makes this country great!!

no freedom of press, no freedom of abusive cops, no freedom to enjoy public lands freely, can't roll a doob, can't swim without a lifeguard, the freedom myth of this country goes on and on unchallenged.

nepa wrote

campgottagopee wrote

Isn't that what the people on that rig are doing?? Trying to live meaningful lives??? What gives people the right to delay them from making a living.....because they don't approve of how they pay their taxes??

Isn't that what a doctor at an abortion clinic is doing also?  Should we ban Pro-lifers from protesting at abortion clinics because Pro-Choicers think the doctors are just trying to live meaningful lives?

A protest is a protest.  It doesn't matter weather you agree with the cause or not.  If you don't like something, you have a right to cry about it in public.  It's called freedom.  It's what makes this country great!!

I said nothing about protesting. My point is these people STOPPED this vessel from leaving the port. Time is money, so these protesters are effin with these guys. That's what bothers me.

ml242 wrote

nepa wrote

It's called freedom.  It's what makes this country great!!

It is a shame how we barely have any freedom whatsoever though.no freedom of press, no freedom of abusive cops, the freedom myth of this country goes on and on unchallenged.

Yep. The word has been so corrupted people are now complaining that they're losing the "freedom" to discriminate against gays, the "freedom" to go without health insurance and bankrupt themselves, and the "freedom" to control what other people do with their bodies.

mattchuck2 wrote

campgottagopee wrote

Isn't that what the people on that rig are doing?? Trying to live meaningful lives??? What gives people the right to delay them from making a living.....because they don't approve of how they pay their taxes??

^ I'm willing to bet that those guys are still getting paid for today. And they'll probably get paid tomorrow, too (or they can get some unemployment while looking for another drilling job, etc.). This is on Shell to figure out. I do have some compassion for people who need paycheck a to feed their families, but I don't think any one individual is losing money here (although I'm sure Shell will push that narrative to garner public sympathy).

 

Good points Matt. I honestly don't know of anyone who works on an oil rig so maybe these guys are getting paid. I have a good buddy of mine who runs heavy equipment on fracking pipelines ----- if he ain't workin he ain't getting paid.

mattchuck2 wrote

 

But if you're implying that oil rig workers are drilling in the arctic because of their deep moral commitment to Shell Oil and their philosophical belief that all oil must be pumped out of every available crevice of the earth because $1.95 a gallon gasoline is a fundamental, God given right, then you're barking up the wrong tree.

Nope....didn't mean to imply that at all

ml242 wrote

nepa wrote

It's called freedom.  It's what makes this country great!!

no freedom of press, no freedom of abusive cops, no freedom to enjoy public lands freely, can't roll a doob, can't swim without a lifeguard, the freedom myth of this country goes on and on unchallenged.

WORD

Would you prefer to get our oil from a country in Iran that calls us the great satan?  Would you rather trust a U.S. Based company to responsibly drill for energy compared to Chinese or Russian companies that will get thier oil regardless of the consequences?

Energy independence is what this country needs not making crappy deals with a country that supports terrorism and can't be trusted with nukes

ml242 wrote

nepa wrote

It's called freedom.  It's what makes this country great!!

no freedom of press, no freedom of abusive cops, no freedom to enjoy public lands freely, can't roll a doob, can't swim without a lifeguard, the freedom myth of this country goes on and on unchallenged.

I live in WA state... I am free to roll doobs daily.