Climate Change: The End of NY's Ski Industry?

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Benny Profane Benny Profane
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Just like it meant the end of California's last year. Oh, wait.
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Benny Profane wrote
Just like it meant the end of California's last year. Oh, wait.
Precisely. Very sad to see this season being used to beat the drum of climate change.

Not sad because I am a skeptic (I am not) but sad because that is false logic that plays into skeptical arguments and sad because it is a very unscientific way to think about the issue. What happened this season may have had a small part to do with climate change but mostly had to do with a massive el nino. Next year could be a banner year, who knows.

Last year, the northeast had the best skiing in the country for much of the season. It was INSANELY cold. Skeptics said "Climate Change WHAT?" and they looked like idiots for doing so as global averages set records. It was an isolated data point from a specific region which you cannot use to extrapolate long term global changes. Same for this season.

I am ALL FOR this type of discussion. But that was a disappointing presentation. Don't look at THIS winter... think about winters in 30 years. I think "will my share of MRG be worth the paper it is printed on in 30 years?" Honestly, I don't know. Based on projections and recent history and the data, I am skeptical that MRG will still be spinning lifts when I am too old to ski. The future is what should be the focus, not the current season. Focusing on now instead of the future is the heart of the problem.
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Ticks are my main concern this year. Tick born illnesses including Lyme disease are no joke. I've got grandparents in East Greenbush, (not far from Clifton Park) and its bad news for them this summer. Actually, it's already bad. Especially in the Hudson Valley.
In fact, I saw one crawling across my computer just an hour ago. Non-skiers are downright giddy about this past winter, but they are going to pay for it now with these blood sucking rodents that carry life threatening disease like Babesiosis. Last year my Grandpa almost died of Babesiosis, and the likelihood of getting a tick is only higher this year. If we keep having winters like this, we are going to have ticks the size of chickens.

http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2012/09/07/disease-spreading-ticks-on-the-move-as-climate-changes/

I was in Troy Christmas eve. It was 72 degrees. My Aunt who lives there said it was 76 last Wednesday.
I'll take boilerplate ice over wet snow any day
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Ethan Snow wrote
 If we keep having winters like this, we are going to have ticks the size of chickens.


A cold snowy winter doesn't necessarily mean less ticks. Lots of snow prevents the cold from having much effect. Extreme variability may be more effective

http://www.caryinstitute.org/newsroom/lyme-disease-freezes-may-reduce-ticks
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long periods of cold are more effective than significantly above average temps. Ticks can survive short periods of cold.
I'll take boilerplate ice over wet snow any day
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I agree. Bullshit
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riverc0il wrote
Very sad to see this season being used to beat the drum of climate change.

Not sad because I am a skeptic (I am not) but sad because that is false logic that plays into skeptical arguments and sad because it is a very unscientific way to think about the issue. What happened this season may have had a small part to do with climate change but mostly had to do with a massive el nino. Next year could be a banner year, who knows.
I agree with this^^, but I don't think the point of the video was to make the case that the poor winter of 2015-16 was caused by global climate change, or that the poor winter of 2015-16 equates to hard evidence that climate change is real.  To me, the message was get used to winters like this, because this winter is an illustration of what winter's may increasingly look like in coming decades.

riverc0il wrote
Last year, the northeast had the best skiing in the country for much of the season. It was INSANELY cold.
It may surprise you that last winter was not INSANELY cold.  At best it was overall average.  November and December were quite warm.  We had an unusually long stretch of colder than normal temps from late Jan through Feb, but on balance it was merely a "normal" winter.
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And if ski areas upgraded their snowmaking more, winters like this wouldn't even matter.  Hunter did great this year.
I've lived in New York my entire life.
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snoloco wrote
And if ski areas upgraded their snowmaking more, winters like this wouldn't even matter.  Hunter did great this year.
You just can't resist can you?
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