Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey

Coach is right.  You people are nuts.

I post saying how I'm excited to be going to college next year, a year earlier than expected, and I'm looking forward to studying a field that I've had a long time interest in, and getting to ski a great mountain in my free time, and all you people can post about are things that are illegal and dangerous?!  Seriously, you want me to throw away my college education, do illegal drugs, and become a sex offender?!  Do you have any idea how much college costs?! You seem to be complaining that the cost is rising every year, and now you want me to flush all that money down the toilet and view it as a 4 year vacation?!  I could do 6 trips out west for the cost of one year of college, and have a lot more fun than partying hard, getting drunk, addicted to illegal drugs and likely arrested, and being a sex offender (also illegal).  Yeah, that sounds like a good reason to drop so much $$$.

Thank you to those who gave me good advice and encouragement.  Those of you who are giving me advice to do things that are illegal and dangerous, go start your own porn thread in the off topic and those of us alone who can act like adults and take things seriously.

Some of you are being so freaking dramatic it's embarrassing.

I'm out of this conversation just because it's become so ridiculous.

Lighten the F up.

snoloco wrote

Coach is right.  You people are nuts.

I post saying how I'm excited to be going to college next year, a year earlier than expected, and I'm looking forward to studying a field that I've had a long time interest in, and getting to ski a great mountain in my free time, and all you people can post about are things that are illegal and dangerous?!  Seriously, you want me to throw away my college education, do illegal drugs, and become a sex offender?!  Do you have any idea how much college costs?! You seem to be complaining that the cost is rising every year, and now you want me to flush all that money down the toilet and view it as a 4 year vacation?!  I could do 6 trips out west for the cost of one year of college, and have a lot more fun than partying hard, getting drunk, addicted to illegal drugs and likely arrested, and being a sex offender (also illegal).  Yeah, that sounds like a good reason to drop so much $$$.

Thank you to those who gave me good advice and encouragement.  Those of you who are giving me advice to do things that are illegal and dangerous, go start your own porn thread in the off topic and those of us alone who can act like adults and take things seriously.

That cliff is fast approaching.................

The Snowloco transformation via the TV show Taxi - his last rant jogged some part of my addled brain and I found this clip about Jim with a guest appearance by Tom Hanks. It is worth watching.

 the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACF4XDznGEs#

If the conversation is about LSD and mushrooms.....or the threesome takes place in the gondi.....it should go in the trip reports forum

warp daddy wrote

See i LIKE people and care deeply about HELPING kids get the BEST start possible .

Warp - IMHO your comments are right on target. We all have fun and if we were truly tight asses we would not even participate in this forum or for that matter waste time skiing, but this is our fun. Your taking a lot of heat for helping to turn around a thread that was going down the crapper fast. You are proving yourself to be a positive role model. I personally have not met you, but would be very glad to shake your hand. You sound like a fun dude with a lot of class.

snoloco wrote

Coach is right.  You people are nuts.

Hahhaha!  You are right.  Coach is nuttiest of them all, you should actually read the shit he writes.

I don't know man, if you can't even handle this conversation, I'm not sure you are ready to go to college.  You might want to stick around and graduate high school.

You might be academically ready (and that's questionable, hs is a lot different than college), but you don't seem nearly mature enough.

I'm pretty sure I experienced more of life by my freshman year of high school than you have so far yet...

Thanks Pee Tex, the feeling  is mutual .  Ur right we ALL are anything but boring considering the fact that we all are engaged in several very fun activities.

Yeah we can all have differences of opinion , and i am as guilty as thnext person when engaging in discussion and or playin round with ball busting  etc ..hell i enjoy it both ways

BUT I draw the line when people suggest  that other people's kids experiment with illegal substances ON and /or  near a university campus . THat behavior if upheld in hearings will as a result of many  ZERO TOLERANCE policies put in many campus judicial systems today Brand you for life if busted by campus or public police .

That record follows you if found guilty either in the campus judicial system or other LE communities and WILL be an issue when seeking employment .Sure you can play the odds BUT the stakes are high so that is not only dangerous and contradictory to the best interests .

Thanks again for your support i just want these guys to have a bright future and a great higher education experience and to do that one NEVER has to play to any peer pressure .

Sno,

I'm just wondering how you are going to handle the potential situation when your roommate is ripping bongs and drinking beer?  Are you going to blow them in to the RA (who will most likely be doing the same things)?  Hide in your closet and wait for them to stop?  Go to campus housing and request a new roomate (a gamble as the next one may do the same thing)?  Call Mommy and tell her you want to come home?

Your last post really maybe fills in a piece of the puzzle why your friends may have black balled you.

Sno trust your radar , this bad advice from Mike Is strictly a compensation on his part in the way of justification for his own past behavior .

People who encourage others to lower their standards are not serving your best interest.

Warp, I think Mike was encouraging tolerance of peers who experiment for the sake of getting along with people who may choose to use and/or abuse.  Not bad advice imho.

I can handle this conversation fine.  What I am pissed about is the people that hijacked this thread to talk about drugs and sex.

My dad already sent in my deposit and the first tuition payment.  I'm going and that's a done deal.  And you think that I'm not mature enough to go because I don't want advice to do things that are illegal and dangerous.

You think I'm immature based on my internet personality and not my real one.  I probably appear that way on here because I'm likely the youngest member, and definitely the youngest member that's regularly active.

 again best of luck , enjoy your new start !!

The drinking age is 21.  Wait until then to see if you want to experiment. Smoking weed stunts adolescent growth.  Alcohol, all I will say is this, the only timeS Ive gotten in trouble was when I was drunk.  Sex, I will say it is much more enjoyable with another person.  If you keep my first two no no's in mind the women/male thing will come naturally.    

 I hear ya  Witchy , but Tough to do in today's ZERO TOLERANCE policy situation on many campuses .

You can be kind and compassionat and try helping the person to seek appropriate help  without condoning illegal behavior and Potentially suffering an aiding and abetting charge if the behavior results in charges . And like i said EVERYONE with a cell is a Gonzo Journalist today and you simply are exposed on many levels .

Again this is my opinion , you may disagree but having been involved adjudicating these cases over. 3 decades i have seen tragedy

tjf1967 wrote

 Sex, I will say it is much more enjoyable with another person.  

For the win!

Tj bringin the da truth "..on THAT score .....lmao

snoloco wrote

I can handle this conversation fine.  What I am pissed about is the people that hijacked this thread to talk about drugs and sex.

My dad already sent in my deposit and the first tuition payment.  I'm going and that's a done deal.  And you think that I'm not mature enough to go because I don't want advice to do things that are illegal and dangerous.

You think I'm immature based on my internet personality and not my real one.  I probably appear that way on here because I'm likely the youngest member, and definitely the youngest member that's regularly active.

Sno, you constantly hijack other peoples threads.  Don't be so defensive of yours getting a little whacky.  There was plenty of on topic discussion already.

Here's Clarkson's Drug/Alcohol policy if you are interested:

http://www.clarkson.edu/campussafety/drug_free_act/sanctions.html

Doesn't appear to be zero tolerance as I read it.

Don't take that as an excuse to break the rules, I'm just pointing this out... and I'm willing to bet a fair sum of money you are going to experience some of this behavior in your dorm.  How you handle it may have a significant impact on your social dealings in college.

For example:

If someone offers you to smoke dope with them, or does in front of you, and you don't want to partake... just tell them it makes you sleepy and gives you a headache, but go ahead and enjoy.

If your buds want to get drunk and you don't, offer to be the DD.  They may bust your balls at first but remind them of the true zero tolerance law of underage drinking and driving, and that you'll take one for the team by being the DD.

Just a couple suggestions but lots of ways to handle those situations.  You'll be able to find straight edge people as well if that is your prerogative, but you won't be able to totally avoid this kind of stuff, especially if you want to get out in social situations.

Wow, this one certainly went in a different direction, albeit it very college related!

My observation?  Everyone here has a different, and very valid, perspective, and the truth about what anyone needs to be prepared for college lies, as truths most often do, in the middle!  Life is never black and white.  The extremes of 'don't you ever' and 'party 'till you drop' just aren't a reality.  Sure, some 'may never' and do just fine, while some may 'party hearty' and do just as well.  Whichever path you choose, you have to be prepared for how to deal with the realities, things you will be exposed to, in making your choices one way or another.

My second roommate in college....his father was a Sargent in the Syracuse PD, mother a lovely person.  Salt of the earth traditionalists who no doubt preached the 'don't you ever'.  Dave was totally unprepared for the college world because he'd never been taught/warned/exposed to the sex and drugs and what have you in the world.  He proceeded to go batshit bonkers and failed out/burned out after a few semesters.  Contrast that with my first roommate who was the ultimate partying free spirit, with hippy like parents who probably encouraged his take on life.  Jamie grew herb in our dorm....and failed out after a semester.  Both were unsuccessful because they were, despite their different paths, totally unprepared for what they would face in college.

So, no....I'm never going to encourage my kids to drink, do drugs and have casual/risky sex.  However, rather than telling them 'don't you ever' and shielding them from the realities, it's my job as a parent to at least discuss with them the realities the things they will be faced with, and to help them to figure out a proper way to deal with them.

Educate, preach tolerance, encourage abstinence, but realize they will make their own decisions.  Anything in moderation is generally good advice if one must, which also allows one to live with balance.

Find a way to teach them all of that and then hope and pray they make the right educated choices when they are out there.....but we have to prepare them to be able to make those choices.

Ultimately I think that is what most everyone is trying to get at here, just from different angles/perspectives.

Mike thanks for posting that citation , when you read President  Tony Collins Memo , and Tables 3 thru 6  all of which is part of the documentation that you cited ,it clarifies and expands the  policy beyond alcohol ,relative to drugs that is in effect at CU .

These concerns are  subject to due process and in some cases both at the University and downtown depending on the situation