Gear Stoke 14-15

Same here. In fact, I just sent out a text to a buddy stating I'm thinking of selling my 84 Pro's. These 90's are the ski for me, no doubt.

After hearing your take on liners I'm really looking forward to checking these out this weekend. It makes you wonder why boot companies don't offer better liners. Prolly due to cost, they certainly don't give them away.

tjf1967 wrote

It intuition liner really amazes me.  I don't understand why boot companies can not produce liners like them.  I got them molded and a foot bed put in and my feet are comfortable. I am still waiting for the other shoe to drop as I just can not believe how switching out a liner can make such a difference.

I've had several pair of Intuition liners as they come standard in Scarpa tele boots.  Because I bought them with boots I had no idea how much they cost. Just Googled and found prices close to (but under) $200.  I had no idea they are that expensive.

Still with as much as I spend on skiing (driving, plowing, prop tax) if I was an alpine skier and my boots weren't perfectly comfortable I'd buy them in a minute.  Say what you want about tele... you never see tele skiers undoing their buckles.

Harvey wrote

   Say what you want about tele... you never see tele skiers undoing their buckles.

I thought you hippies still had laces in your boots

I can think of three people off the top of my head that got new tele boots in the last year.  All three had comfort issues.  Two used them in walk mode until they broke in and the other would switch back and forth.  Another guy I was on the Gondi with Sunday had new teles on and he was complaining.  I don't care what you wear.  When you are getting sub 100 on the lath your feet are going to hurt.

I buckle my boots once in the morning and then tighten them up when the crack of nooners show up.  It is my feeling if you cant keep your boots buckled all day long your boot does not fit properly.    

tjf1967 wrote

I buckle my boots once in the morning and then tighten them up when the crack of nooners show up.  It is my feeling if you cant keep your boots buckled all day long your boot does not fit properly.

That sounds like me.  Tighten them up after a few runs.  Im not even loosening them if I stop for lunch.

Some of my boots have laces, the fun ones

Maybe I've been lucky, Scarpa 27.5 out of the box have fit me great without and special fitting or anything.  I've never heard of telepeeps complaining about fit or pain. In fairness I haven't exactly asked about it either. Maybe they're suffering in silence.

I love the way Intuitions allow you to create toe room with the molding cap.

I bought intuition liners for my current boots..didn't work out, more painful then the old liners..
decided just to buy new boots in the spring...

Yep ,on boots. : put  'em on  , screw ' em down and don't  mess with them at lunch .

Maybe I'm just a freak, sorry you guys are in so much pain.  Maybe I am too but having so much fun I don't notice.

I'm a mess around with them at lunch guy.  I'm never in a lot of pain with my boots, but the feet appreciate a breather.

What is everyone's m.o. with boots nowadays?  I'm still probably stuck in the dinosaur age of my racing youth.  I was just a $hitty racer for my HS team at the local hill, but dating back to those days I still put my 11.5 street shoe foot into a 10.5 boot.  Things are tight, but I still feel it gives me a better connection to the ski than a softer, cushier 11.5 boot would give me.

Never been into the performance fit.  The guides I skied with in Colorado only buckled the bottom buckle anyway. Many of them hacked the other buckles off as they didn't want to listen to them flopping around.

keep my t1 as loose as i can ,really just use the instep buckle to keep my heel down in the boot.now keeping the heel down on the ski is a different thing all together

just finished putting some bindings on some skis, so stoked for tomorrow!!!

Nice! Praxis clearance sale?  I was drooling for a while, even contemplating.. Then the whole S-1 equation was remembered..

I know it is late for 14-15 stoke, but I got BD skins and a pair of T1s today, fitted by Rich. :)

what's the s1?

They weren't clearance, just a splurge to treat myself. They're ultralight GPO's, and I mean light. Just as bomber so far as his other skis. Very happy.

Harvey wrote

I know it is late for 14-15 stoke, but I got BD skins and a pair of T1s today, fitted by Rich. :)

Nice Harv. Good luck with the new boots. Did you ever contemplate NTN instead of the T1s? What's your take on the NTN?

Thanks Marcski. I did think about NTN, but not too much. Just enough to ask about it at the last minute.

I was sitting with Rich about to christen/mold the new T1s. I asked him if I was making a mistake.  He said it depends.

He said a lot of guys are still buying 75mm stuff new.  They sold many pairs of T1s this year, and he said people are using them in the woods.

His opinion is that NTN is unmatched for carving trenches in cord or groomed trails. But he felt a little of the magic of the turn was lost in ungroomed snow.

While I'll probably use the T1s for groomers mostly, it still swayed me. That and the fact that switching won't be cheap.

These things are so supportive and so comfortable I can't believe it.



Now if I could only flex the bellows.

Thought you might be posting here

You might find the bellows flex a tad stiff for bc, but it also depends on the spring rate on your bindings... Stiff boots need stiffer springs to flex.  YMMV...,  and like all things your body will learn to adjust for the decreased forefoot pressure sensitivity.  It would be best to get some miles in on them this spring on groomers.  They will get softer, but not a lot.  

TD