Murder by Cop

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PeeTex
Don't ski the trees, ski the spaces between the trees.
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JohnIrvingwrestles
As bad as this week was, thank god this week didn't  happen from 1958-1964 when most of the country had the luxury of blind ignorance to insulate themselves from the realities of injustice that many Americans faced during that era. This incident likely would've been covered up and brushed aside as a black problem.  No cellphones, no internet, no 24hr news cycle allowed an  anesthetized majority from having empathy for the "others".  The good old days weren't really that good for many.....Bliss and comfort from ignorance should  never be misinterpreted as good.  Thankfully, this is a time when nasty biases are no longer left unchallenged. As uncomfortable as it is to confront these realities, it's better that no one has the luxury any more to remain blind to injustices.  The days of Jim Crow, anti-homosexual laws, and accepted sexism are best left in the past, as they certainly weren't the good old days for minorities, gays or independent women.  A little discomfort is better than ignorant bliss.
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MC2 5678F589
Yep. A lot of people who aren't on board with "Make America Great Again" were the people who were repressed and mistreated during the times when America was supposedly great.
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PeeTex
Here is an interesting opposition view based on statistics.
https://www.facebook.com/UnbiasedAmerica/photos/a.130184327167571.1073741828.123061011213236/503259433193390/?type=3&theater
Don't ski the trees, ski the spaces between the trees.
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MC2 5678F589
Come on. Read the first comment and realize the inherent bias that using "arrests" as the basis brings.

Stop introducing garbage arguments!
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PeeTex
mattchuck2 wrote
Come on. Read the first comment and realize the inherent bias that using "arrests" as the basis brings.

Stop introducing garbage arguments!
As always, you only see what you want to see. These are ratiometric statistics, they take out population bias. The only bias is that they cannot account for non-arrests or how likely a white is stopped over a black being stopped. What the data says is that if you are arrested you are more likely to be shot if you are white - and that is all it says.
Don't ski the trees, ski the spaces between the trees.
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Harvey
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Does the shooting in Minnesota count as an arrest?

Was Philando Castile arrested?
"You just need to go at that shit wide open, hang on, and own it." —Camp
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MC2 5678F589
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We've just spent the last two pages detailing all of the BS arrests that black people are subject to, and you still think # of deaths as a function of # of arrests is a valid statistic?

Come on, man...
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PeeTex
mattchuck2 wrote
We've just spent the last two pages detailing all of the BS arrests that black people are subject to, and you still think # of deaths as a function of # of arrests is a valid statistic?

Come on, man...
I thought it was an interesting statistic and a valid statistic.
Don't ski the trees, ski the spaces between the trees.
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ml242
You've been arrested for improperly hanging your TP, peetex?
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PeeTex
Still waiting - will BoxOrocks call the Dallas shooting a hate crime? I doubt it.
Don't ski the trees, ski the spaces between the trees.
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MC2 5678F589
There's a special place in hell for people who use tragedy and death to try to divide people instead of trying to help people come together and find solutions to the actual problems in the country.
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Harvey
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This post was updated on .
I sorta get the whole battle on use of the phrase "radical islamic terrorism."  What each side is trying to accomplish fits the profile of that side.

But what is the politics behind the phrase "hate crime?" It seems that it's Fox that is outraged that the term hate crime wasn't used, so I guess it makes sense that P is bummed. But I don't get it. IMO, barring self defense, almost anytime you kill people you don't know it's basically mental illness.

Looks like the Dallas shooter was involved with meth, not sure if he was selling or using.
"You just need to go at that shit wide open, hang on, and own it." —Camp
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campgottagopee
Massive props for Prez Obama going to visit the families of the slain officers this week
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JohnIrvingwrestles
From that bastion of Liberalism, the NY Post:http://nypost.com/2016/07/22/cops-body-slam-teacher-say-blacks-have-violent-tendencies/
Woman, teacher, speeding.
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tjf1967
WOW this is happening all the time.  WTF is wrong with these mental midgets.
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campgottagopee
That vid is over a year old
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warp daddy
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Beginning to think rthere is a serious need for psychological testing periodically for uniformed police ...this shit must end .


I get that people can be afraid but the end does not justify the means . Officers  who are suffering a form of anxiety or extreme prejudice should be screened and either treated or in extreme terminated . i prefer second chances in non patrol modes l, e.g. desk work or court escort service or less confrontational roles ....just musing here ,, have no real concrete ideas just the kinowledge that THIS SHIT MUST END

Sensitivity training is puff but real police community relations efforts like playground based efforts , or  sports sponsorship , or creative arts sponsorship in the parks n projects or the example Camp used of a BBQ instead of a confrontation are all better means to bring about the desired end .
Life ain't a dress rehearsal: Spread enthusiasm , avoid negative nuts.
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JohnIrvingwrestles
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campgottagopee wrote
That vid is over a year old
True it's from 2015 when there wasn't an acute interest of this problem during the news cycle so -of course it got ignored until now.  A couple months from now, when everyone has tired of this subject, I'm sure stuff like this once again won't be reported on...unless the perpetrator/speeder gets shot.  The common day to day indignities of bigotry and bias typically get ignored until something sensationally bad occurs.
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