Same Old Greek Peak .... ME THINKS NOT!

We've got shit goin on!!!

Tailgate Party w/ live DJ at Chair 5!?!?! ---- these guys are bringin' it ya'll ---- it's gonna B rawkin





Fresh and new ideas ..... I dig it

Someone said it best last weekend ---- Greek Peak is FUN again

Nice!

Is that the ski hill in the background or hay fields?  

Old Greek Peak would go at least weekends into April if possible. It is to be seen if the NEW GP will operate as long as possible at the end of the season or be an early closer like Elk Mountain and Windham.

Big Al would never, never, never, ever allow Greek to close with a skiable trail.

ScottyJack wrote

Is that the ski hill in the background or hay fields?  

LOL...that's our mountain!

ScottyJack wrote

Is that the ski hill in the background or hay fields?  

Keep it up cowboy.....gonna be a looooong summer!

Big D wrote

Old Greek Peak would go at least weekends into April if possible. It is to be seen if the NEW GP will operate as long as possible at the end of the season or be an early closer like Elk Mountain and Windham.

Big Al would never, never, never, ever allow Greek to close with a skiable trail.

These guys are skiers. They'll want to ski just as bad as we do.

campgottagopee wrote

ScottyJack wrote

Is that the ski hill in the background or hay fields?  

Keep it up cowboy.....gonna be a looooong summer!

HEY!!  UR the cowboy and I an the NATIVE AMERICAN!!  

campgottagopee wrote

These guys are skiers. They'll want to ski just as bad as we do.

Holy crap, Camp and I agree on something!  They have a great base on snowmaking trails - they will want to stay open as long as possible - economics of that might prove difficult though.

ScottyJack wrote

campgottagopee wrote

ScottyJack wrote

Is that the ski hill in the background or hay fields?  

Keep it up cowboy.....gonna be a looooong summer!

HEY!!  UR the cowboy and I an the NATIVE AMERICAN!!

AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT!!!

I also have redneck relatives right around the corner from you, so you can run but you CAN NOT hide Tonto......better stay on the reservation

billyymc wrote

campgottagopee wrote

These guys are skiers. They'll want to ski just as bad as we do.

Holy crap, Camp and I agree on something!  They have a great base on snowmaking trails - they will want to stay open as long as possible - economics of that might prove difficult though.

campgottagopee wrote

Big D wrote

Old Greek Peak would go at least weekends into April if possible. It is to be seen if the NEW GP will operate as long as possible at the end of the season or be an early closer like Elk Mountain and Windham.

Big Al would never, never, never, ever allow Greek to close with a skiable trail.

These guys are skiers. They'll want to ski just as bad as we do.

Camp... Gotta give credit where due - Amazing how they opened on Friday, the day after Thanksgiving, plus that Sat. & Sun.
Also some guy told me he heard they are going to invest $1,000,000. per year into ski improvements for the next 6 years.
I have a feeling it's gonna be way over 1 million per year.

1 mill a year would be called basic upkeep or even neglect........ on a area with the expance of gp, has to be way more, as at 299 $ season pass and cheap tickets they bring in atlease 20mill a year befor payouts and such, base profit is atlease a mill befor upgrades ( not counting the slow vision express)

Owners skiers or not, a non buesness man would not use the line, "in the past the management gave the product away", and u don't buy a bankrupt resort becuse your just a skiier like the common person.... look at the two, their kinda like a john maines of elmira, their brilent business men( I'd asume by their worth), and will do what will keep greek peak a profitable business afair first and formost, maybe its staying open late or closing early ( sure this year they will stay open and test the waters)

kenneywallace wrote

1 mill a year would be called basic upkeep or even neglect........ on a area with the expance of gp, has to be way more, as at 299 $ season pass and cheap tickets they bring in atlease 20mill a year befor payouts and such, base profit is atlease a mill befor upgrades ( not counting the slow vision express)

Owners skiers or not, a non buesness man would not use the line, "in the past the management gave the product away", and u don't buy a bankrupt resort becuse your just a skiier like the common person.... look at the two, their kinda like a john maines of elmira, their brilent business men( I'd asume by their worth), and will do what will keep greek peak a profitable business afair first and formost, maybe its staying open late or closing early ( sure this year they will stay open and test the waters)

I've never skied at Greek Peak, and I don't even read 90% of what's written on this forum about Greek Peak, but this post strikes me as one of the best examples of why armchair, would-be mountain managers should refrain from public displays of their ignorance.

Horrendous grammar and mis-spellings aside (go ahead, blame your mobile device), what is the basis for $20 million gross revenue and $1 million net profit?  I'll cite Gore and Whiteface as benchmarks, with skier visits in the 200K range and gross revenue in the $8 - $10 million range each.  How does Greek do nearly 250% of Gore's revenue?  Don't tell me "the hotel" without providing a linked, factual source for your numbers.

Oy vey, everyone's an expert.

Ok bad estiamte, so shot me, still the point is valid.

Also had to consider food

kenneywallace wrote

Ok bad estiamte, so shot me

Shot me?  Please, read what you've typed before hitting "post."

kenneywallace wrote

still the point is valid.

What point?  You expect a reader to discern a point from all of that unreadable jibberish?

Everyone is saying the owners are just skiiers, which their not, the whole staying open later then elk idea may not happen if it won't make them more money

They are buisness men trying to make money

And will do what will make the most money for the resort as a whole

Assuming greek get
150k visitors at 58 $ average ticket 9 mill
50k night tickets at 30 $ 1.5 mill
Lesson program kid camp at 600 $ and 200 kids 120k
Season pass say 300 people- 100k
Taverna food and a frame- 1.5mill
Trax bar and grill- 1.5 mill
Rentals-go low and say 2 mill (if 1/4 rent, this is debatable)
Tubing/adventer center 1 mill
Water park- 1 mill
Lodge- (it lost money in the past acounting as a major factor for the chapter 11)- guess low on it-1 mill
New time shares-(a guess) 15 at 20k-300k

Total revenue would be somewhere near 15-20 mill befor deductions (number can be debated yes)


As for the 1 mill coment, where the resort needs to be, that wouldn't be enough

I would think 5 mill a year with the new snow making, new trails, new lift mt. Biking, and flood damage repair(could be yearly or rarely, gridly creek is a active mountian creek pron to flash floods)

kenneywallace wrote

 1 mill a year would be called basic upkeep or even neglect

Hold on. It's quite possible that the annual maintenance money is a separate figure from the 1 mill ski improvements money mentioned above.  

True,

Going by how ambitious they sounded in harveys email on the other greek thread,  I'm thinking 3-5 mill a year, new lift on backside would be 1.5 mill if they go that road, also would need snowmaking on arcadian gate to do that project.

Glades trail may go a volunteer route again like with labyrinth last year

To be seen the 13th what their plan truly is but I feel it will cost more

Adk Jeff wrote

kenneywallace wrote

Ok bad estiamte, so shot me

Shot me?  Please, read what you've typed before hitting "post."

kenneywallace wrote

still the point is valid.

What point?  You expect a reader to discern a point from all of that unreadable jibberish?

C'mon give him a break! He wears a helmet...24/7..