Trouble in River City

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PeeTex PeeTex
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Trouble in River City

So me and the misses go into one of our favorite restaurants, sit down and notice a disturbing sign. The menu has shrunk - what’s going on, some of our favorite entrees are gone. The owner and good friend comes over and I ask- what’s up? The answer - no help. The kitchen people can have plenty of work elsewhere. It’s the same all over - nobody can find workers. The North country labor pool has evaporated. The menu was cut down because there is no one to cook. Another couple we know who ones a restaurant - the wife is now doing the dishes as they can’t find the help. They both are paying help more but it’s still not enough to attract new help. I can’t get people to help around our place either anymore. Apparently the mountains will be understaffed as well. Don’t be surprised if you have to take turns loading you buddies on chairs this winter...

All signs of a great economy with near full employment- when this last happened after WW2 it forced employers to offer great benefits- maybe this will happen again and we won’t need Medicare for all.
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Add in STRs and restaurant workers can’t afford to live.  LP imports guest visa workers from South America to fill that gap but their is nearly enough of them as workers keep getting forced out when thier long term housing keeps getting converted to STRs
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If they pay higher wages, people will drive longer distances to work (from towns with cheaper housing)

What are these kitchen & dishwashing jobs paying? There's your issue. Maybe they just don't want to pay the salaries that it would take to get good help, so their business is suffering as a result. The laws of economics still apply in the north country. If you want a successful business, you need to pony up some cash to attract good employees (or do a better job of advertising job openings to potential hires).
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MC2 5678F589 wrote
If they pay higher wages, people will drive longer distances to work (from towns with cheaper housing)

What are these kitchen & dishwashing jobs paying? There's your issue. Maybe they just don't want to pay the salaries that it would take to get good help, so their business is suffering as a result. The laws of economics still apply in the north country. If you want a successful business, you need to pony up some cash to attract good employees (or do a better job of advertising job openings to potential hires).
Yes - and that’s is just what’s happening. I view this as a sign of just how well the economy is working for everyone. When the people you would hire for small jobs around the property no longer ask if you need help or can’t “schedule” you in for weeks or months then times are good and when this is happening in the far flung reaches of the North Country things are great.
Don't ski the trees, ski the spaces between the trees.
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Okay, but like I said, economics rules still apply.

If there are less workers in the county you live in (and most upstate NY counties have declined in population), and more demand for jobs (because there are a lot of tourists & second home owners), workers are going to be busy (especially this time of year) and demand higher salaries.

It's good news, let's see if it continues this fall & winter.
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MC2 5678F589 wrote
It's good news, let's see if it continues this fall & winter.
Or past Nov 3rd 2020
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As some of you know, I run a college food service. It's a small school so we serve around 700 meals a day.

Help is the major source of my aggravation.. I pay my main cooks  around 20$ a hour and they still want more.
Dish crew makes 12..Prep cooks around 13+...I am on my hands and knees trying to find people..Hence I work 6.5 days a week..

I think the restaurant business is big trouble.
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This has been happening on the coast in all the New England summer towns for a while. This is what happens when immagration is curtailed.
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Benny Profane wrote
This has been happening on the coast in all the New England summer towns for a while. This is what happens when immagration is curtailed.
It’s a wonderful thing - a market driven living wage. No guaranteed minimum income required.
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PeeTex wrote
It’s a wonderful thing.
You started this thread with a complaint. Now its wonderful that restaurant owners are washing dishes & your favorite restaurant has a smaller menu?
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