Uneven Sidecut

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Harvey Harvey
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Uneven Sidecut

I'm looking at another pair of Whiterooms to be mounted with NTNs.

Vin now does skis with different side profiles, inside edge and outside edge that essentially "adjust" for the fact that the inside ski travels a shorter distance.

Does anyone have any experience with this? Pros and Cons?
"You just need to go at that shit wide open, hang on, and own it." —Camp
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I will die on the "asymmetric skis are dumb because you have to tune them twice as much & pay attention when you're putting them on" hill, but since you use 75mm and already have a right & left ski, those criticisms don't apply.

I'm sure JTG will come in for a K2 Marksman pitch in a few minutes.
Harvey Harvey
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Do they make a difference in skiing? I guess it's purely a groomer thing.

Bad Harv doesn't really tune his skis very often...
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I imagine you would need to be fitted to get this right, with variables being the stance (narrow = more gentle side cut), average grade of pitch (steeper = wider stance = more aggressive side cut) and type of turns that one favors (G.S. turns = more gentle side cut).

However, if you're not picky with tuning, it might not make a difference.
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What’s your goal in switching to NTN? Also, what does Vin say the asymmetric sidecut is for? Is it to make the turn easier no matter the speed or to increase hold at high speed? That should inform your choice right?
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MC doesn’t want to hear me praise the virtues of the Pep Fujas-inspired Marksman....maybe I’ll talk about the Drew Tabke-inspired Praxis Quixote!  Same difference.

Harvey, yes...I’m a fan.  The Marksman is the most fun ski I’ve ever owned, and I’m skiing them with tech bindings.  

Yes, the asym sidecut makes a difference.  As for groomers, when you do it right they carve rails better than any other mid-fat ski I’ve been on.  The shorter outside edge makes it easier to engage the edge on the uphill ski when carving.

No, these two skis won’t carve as well as a narrow GS ski....but with the likes of Fujas and Tabke leading the charge would you expect them to?  No....these guys are free-ride and jib-park all the way.  Now, I’m not a park guy...but I do spend the majority of my time off-piste chasing fun lines.  The shape of the ski effects the swing weight, making the skis incredibly nimble.  Carve a line, slarve to check your speed or adjust your line, throw them sideways on a dime if you need to.  The skis really shine opening up the whole mountain as your playground.....in addition to carving well, floating in pow, and blasting over crud.

Marksman is 106 under foot, Quixote is 118.  No idea how the asym sidecut would perform if you had it on a custom narrower ski.....but it looks like the ski you are eyeing is 108, so it’s right in line.

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Harvey Harvey
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I'm switching to NTN because the 22 Designs bindings I like seem to be destroying my 75mm boots.  In part that is why I am getting new skis, so I have both setups.  If I don't like it, maybe I'll go back.

My skis will be 97 underfoot. I'm considering it because Vin is recommending it.

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If you're switching to NTN, you should not get an asymmetric ski.

Also, why not get a quiver? Why do you keep buying different iterations of the same ski? I feel like an 84-88mm waisted hard-snow day Carver would be a more useful complement to the skis you already have.

Jump Turn Guy, what does any of that matter if you're just making jump turns all the time?
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97 seems like a good compromise!
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JTG4eva! wrote
  The shorter outside edge makes it easier to engage the edge on the uphill ski when carving.
If anyone is having trouble with this, the thing you need is "a lesson" not "an asymmetric pair of skis"
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