Whiteface Improvements 2016-2017

snoloco wrote

blank check from NYS

Learning going on here.

Was working on a story on WF improvements, but at this point looks like I have to let it go.

LOL

Yea Harv it's already been decided

Bahaha! I can imagine the chairlift rides, I would be packing one up and the kid would be going off on snowmaking/lift facts and numbers.

Incredibly funny stories are on the horizon

Haha, yeah, it's not like it's consistently steep for 3100k, but I like numbers and the numbers are the biggest! The best!

Are you going to run T2B's all winter long Sno? Turn em and burn em! :D

The top 1800 feet is some of the best sustained vertical in the east.  The bottom 1300 feet is like a typical blue cruiser at another mountain.  Steep enough to rip if it isn't too crowded.

I'm not going top to bottom every single run.  I'd never get to ski Little Whiteface or Lookout.  The Freeway, Little Whiteface, Lookout, and Summit lifts have the best sustained vertical and I plan to lap those most of the time.

This is all of course if the lifts aren't on wind hold, in which case I would go to Gore instead.

T2B's just off the upper mountain should be sufficient though eh? Aren't those upper mountain runs (not including the slides) just groomers though? I don't ever feel like I get a real workout on groomers, maybe with some really fast slalom skis you can though huh?

As far as wind holds go, how will you know for sure until you are there and the bell goes off?

JTG4eva! wrote

Petit Homme Sno.......PMS.

PMSing will never be the same again!

Oops......meant to replace Homme with Monsieur.......that would make a little more sense!

T2B from Summit Quad to Godola nonstop is a heck of a run!  Not only do I like to tuck it on my ski blades, but I enjoy watching my GPS app on the way so I know how fast I'm going!

A good improvement would be a radar speed check or two, like they have on 73 heading into Keene!

snoloco wrote

The top 1800 feet is some of the best sustained vertical in the east.

agree

snoloco wrote

 The bottom 1300 feet is like a typical blue cruiser at another mountain.  Steep enough to rip if it isn't too crowded.

I guess I am just not into blue cruisers then, if only the base lodge was in the middle, it'd be like a huge plattekill!

ML are you saying you've never skied WF?

I've skied it, it's awesome. I just wish I could drive to the bottom of the slides and get on a chair. Lolz

PHEW --- OK, carry on then

raisingarizona wrote

T2B's just off the upper mountain should be sufficient though eh?

Early season, they usually just have the gondola open, requiring one to go to the bottom on every run.  Once the rest of the lifts open, I'll mostly stay above the Freeway/Racing lift.  Not saying I'll never go to the bottom till the end of the day, but I'll mostly stay on the steeper, less crowded terrain.

raisingarizona wrote

Aren't those upper mountain runs (not including the slides) just groomers though?

Skyward to Victoria and Paron's Run are the two main ways down from the summit, and both are typically groomed.  However, Skyward sometimes isn't on powder days or in the spring.  I've skied it in the spring with nothing but soft spring bumps all the way down (fun, but a leg burner).  Cloudspin has plumbing, but I haven't seen them blow snow on it in a while.  It's a shame because that is a really nice trail, and was one of the Olympic runs.  When open on natural snow, it is almost always ungroomed.

Elsewhere on the mountain, I've never seen Lookout Below, Empire, or Upper Mac groomed.  They have the capability to groom Hoyt's High and do so periodically, but this usually done after thaws.  Empire is definitely too narrow to groom, but I'm not sure if they can groom Lookout Below or Mac.

raisingarizona wrote

As far as wind holds go, how will you know for sure until you are there and the bell goes off?

Easy, if you think it's going to be windy enough to close lifts, you go to Gore.  Then track the report at WF to see if the lifts actually did close.

The slides should also be open from February 1st. Ski them if you dare!

snoloco wrote

This is all of course if the lifts aren't on wind hold, in which case I would go to Gore instead.

To which deity do we pray for no wind holds at Whiteface?
Asking for a friend who skis mostly at Gore

ml242 wrote

The slides should also be open from February 1st. Ski them if you dare!

Hahahahahahahahahahaha...

Hilarious joke that they reliably open every year and the normal time is of opening is February 1st.

You're a funny guy, ml.

ml242 wrote

The slides should also be open from February 1st. Ski them if you dare!

I'll be they wish they could do that. Wonder why they just don't leave them alone and call in OB skiing much like $towe/Smuggs does with the Notch. I mean everyone tells you not to but yet everyone does....prolly cause NYS is involved?

I'm guessing it's for marketing and having control over the area helps cut down on rescue missions but that's just a hunch from an outsider.

How did the trails at WF get their names? Paron's, Hoyt's?