Whiteface - Lookout Mountain...estimated opening?

I haven't

snoloco wrote

and there's zero chance of the situation improving unless I give them lots of feedback about it.

You better bring glade as backup petit homme!  Rack It!  

Snowballs wrote

BenedictGomez wrote

I've been there numerous times when conditions made that short, steepish, bottom bit with the hairpin turn downright dangerous for low-level intermediates (which is most intermediates).  

One time I actually stood on the side and watched for a while in morbid amusement, it was like a NASCAR track with a bad oil slick.

Ok. This ^^^ always gets said about the Willie. Maybe this hazardous aspect is part of a " delay ", so to speak. It's a questionable trail and maybe mgt is reluctant to open it more often. IDK.

Kinda of a catch 22. " We have a new and long trail but it's a train wreck for many people to ski it. ".

Again, IDK.

You could be onto something there.  It really should be a black as should Victoria for that matter.  Marketing does not want that but imo they should ask Patrol since they are the ones that have to pick up the pieces.  There seems to be more cautious attitude this year than I have seen in the past.  Dec 27 they closed the Gondi not due to wind but because excelsior became a train wreck. The boys in Orange tried to talk those on rentals off going up the Gondi but unless management comes out and says no rentals on the Gondi that day you can't truly police things that much.  Patrol I heard made the call to shut it down that day - really a wise choice and probably not popular upstairs and downtown.  Same goes for Skyward on Saturday.  I've skied it in worse conditions but for the GP it was dangerous so they shut it down and they blew it more.  WT blown before a rain storm which is then going go freeze up is going to be hazardous all skiers from Sno's level on down on a Holiday weekend is probably a plaintiff's lawyer's wet dream.  

There also is a factor of costs to consider.  You open that and every day mid week you have to either run the lift which costs about grand a day or not run it and have the Sno's of the world scream that its not open and ask for their money back.  

Noah John was right.

Face4Me wrote

Noah John was right.

This

snoloco wrote

not opening it is as good as not having it.

If you don't have the terrain, it doesn't hurt you on the snoloco report card.

Return Lookout to the Wilderness!

Face4Me wrote

Noah John was right.

         No uh, John left.

Face4Me wrote

Noah John was right.

How you been Face?

French fries or onion rings?

Coach Z wrote

Dec 27 they closed the Gondi not due to wind but because excelsior became a train wreck. The boys in Orange tried to talk those on rentals off going up the Gondi but unless management comes out and says no rentals on the Gondi that day you can't truly police things that much.  Patrol I heard made the call to shut it down that day - really a wise choice and probably not popular upstairs and downtown.

That's an excuse to close a lift that I've never heard before.

I know if I was there that day I would've been pissed.  I don't typically ski the gondola once everything is open, normally use LWF, but if it had a 6 flags style line and was stopping all the time as a result, I would not have been a happy camper.

Coach Z wrote

There also is a factor of costs to consider.  You open that and every day mid week you have to either run the lift which costs about grand a day or not run it and have the Sno's of the world scream that its not open and ask for their money back.

I don't care whether Lookout is closed with snow on it or without, if it's not open on a day where it obviously could, and should be (thinking President's Day), I'm not going to be happy.  If it's not open for President's Day, I'm going to Tremblant.  My family was going to come up to LP that weekend too, but if WF management can't be bothered to open all the lifts like all other mountains do, the area doesn't deserve our business.

Noah John Was Right!

snoloco wrote

 My family was going to come up to LP that weekend too, but if WF management can't be bothered to open all the lifts like all other mountains do, the area doesn't deserve our business.

All the other debates aside, this may be the very crux of it all. Other mtns do a better job. ORDA falls short.

Glade Runner wrote

everything about Whiteface is shit except the terrain.  But, they hardly ever have the snow so that renders the terrain useless.

Glade was right

Noah John Was Right!

Sno - do us all a favor, hold you breath until you get what you want.

snoloco wrote

My family was going to come up to LP that weekend too, but if WF management can't be bothered to open all the lifts like all other mountains do, the area doesn't deserve our business.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out...

NJ said a shit ton of stuff - some right, some wrong, most just to get a reaction.  What in particular was he right about Face?

Sno - I like you but please just shut the fuck up and go to Tremblant if that is what you want to do.  You can't fix Orda.  No body except the Gov of NY can do that and unfortunately he knows absolutely nothing about running a ski area as he well should so just accept it warts and all or plan to ski at Titus.

Coach Z wrote

What in particular was he right about Face?

I think he's referring to the famous quote  "His dad doesn't hit him enough".

Coach Z wrote

NJ said a shit ton of stuff - some right, some wrong, most just to get a reaction.  What in particular was he right about Face?

HARVEY WORLD!