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snoloco

Re: Whiteface - Lookout Mountain...estimated opening?

Are the guns still up there as you mentioned earlier? If they are, I'd assume they were going to blow Wilmington in this next snowmaking window.

Might have made sense to build base depths in problem areas before the r*in so that they could go all out on Wilmington afterwards. However, if that doesn't happen, it will all have been a big waste.

I've lived in New York my entire life.

NorEaster27

Re: Whiteface - Lookout Mountain...estimated opening?

they are going to need to resurface a lot of trails friday night to avoid going full ice face for the holiday weekend, I hope they ignore Lookout for the next week.

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NorEaster27 wrote

they are going to need to resurface a lot of trails friday night to avoid going full ice face for the holiday weekend, I hope they ignore Lookout for the next week.

Totally agree. Priority now is resurfacing.

if You French Fry when you should Pizza you are going to have a bad time

snoloco

Re: Whiteface - Lookout Mountain...estimated opening?

In reply to this post by NorEaster27

Ignoring Lookout for the next week will likely result in ignoring it until next year. They got a good snowmaking window this weekend and should put it to use while they can. Get the bottom done and then cover the top next week when the temps are less favorable at the bottom.

They definitely should touch up some high traffic areas on Friday, but during a busy holiday weekend, they should not be making snow on open terrain. It's very dangerous on a crowded trail if no one can see where they're going and not fun either.

Also, appealing to Coach, it will suck for the instructors to teach over the guns. They should move snowmaking to a secluded area like Wilmington during the holiday weekend.

I've lived in New York my entire life.

NorEaster27

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In reply to this post by Z

warm and rain today and below zero tomorrow night, hopefully they fire the guns up on the high traffic trails

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In reply to this post by snoloco

as much as I hate teaching under guns that is what needs to happen
go buy some contacts Sno and stop your bitching

if You French Fry when you should Pizza you are going to have a bad time

snoloco

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In reply to this post by Z

Why the hell did they piss away all last week blowing snow on open terrain when they knew there was going to be r*in on Thursday which meant they'd need to do it all again?

By the weekend, Gore is planning the following terrain expansions since last weekend: Echo, Cedars, Hedges, Tahawus, Wood In, Hullabaloo, Lower Darby, Little Cloud, and Wood Lot.

Whiteface is planning the following terrain expansions since last weekend:

For me at least, the decision for which mountain to visit is quite clear.

I've lived in New York my entire life.

Darkside Shaman

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snoloco wrote

Why the hell did they piss away all last week blowing snow on open terrain when they knew there was going to be r*in on Thursday which meant they'd need to do it all again?

By the weekend, Gore is planning the following terrain expansions since last weekend: Echo, Cedars, Hedges, Tahawus, Wood In, Hullabaloo, Lower Darby, Little Cloud, and Wood Lot.

Whiteface is planning the following terrain expansions since last weekend:

For me at least, the decision for which mountain to visit is quite clear.

Dude, stop making yourself look like the spoiled petulant child that you are! WF is so far ahead of Gore at this point, it's not even close! AND, if you don't like skiing under the guns, then go the fuck home, as diehard skiers love it!!

Gotta go to know

MC2 5678F589

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Coach Z wrote

Part of the problem is that after the top 3rd or so the trail is really in the wrong place if the goal was to create a long real blue. The whole thing was supposed to be as boring as the top part as that is what WF really needs is more lower level blues not 2.5 miles of blue with black pitches in it. We have plenty of that already. Somewhere around the top of Sugar Valley Glades the run should have been moved to skiers left into where the glade is. With the exception that top couple hundred feet of SVG which they could have switched backed the pitch is very blue in there. It would have been out of the wind and held snow really well and they could have done some islands of trees that the birds like and intermediates also like sort of like Birch glades at Pico.

The issue then is how would you connect LBO and the solution would have been to start LBO all the way up where the first really narrow section of WT is now. Since it would have been black they could have blasted a lot less to get there. Glades could have then be put in where the rest of WT is now and run to the left down to where the trail should have been.

I agree with this completely. Solid post, Coach.

As far as the "recover on the bread and butter trails" or "open new terrain" debate, that could be a whole different thread. But Gore is clearly going in one direction (trying to open up new pods), while Whiteface is going the other way. I suspect it has to do with the layout of the mountains, and the fact that Gore needs the byways to be open in case it snows big and the trees open up. Whiteface, whose clientele is more interested in boring groomers, needs those groomers to be skiable, even in the absence of snow. Gore's decision is already making some trails that are normally fine (Uncas, Showcase) into icy luge runs by not circling back and re-blowing them, but I can see the long term plan there. A 6-10" snowfall and the mountain will be a playground.

NorEaster27

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In reply to this post by Darkside Shaman

Whiteface is 77% open, Gore is 55%

NorEaster27

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In reply to this post by MC2 5678F589

Only problem with Gore is that a 6-10 inch snowstorm is not likely in the next 2 weeks.

snoloco

Re: Whiteface - Lookout Mountain...estimated opening?

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Check that again tomorrow when Gore opens up the trails I mentioned earlier.

Gore is also bigger than Whiteface, so 60% open at Gore is more terrain than 80% at Whiteface.

Uncas is in terrible shape because it's the only route to the summit and has way more skier traffic than it should.

Showcase was pretty good yesterday.

Belleayre didn't resurface anything when I was skiing there over the past few weeks, but they expanded terrain quite well. Were some trails kind of icy? Yes. Did I appreciate skiing more terrain that would've been closed if they tried to resurface elsewhere? Even more.

I've lived in New York my entire life.

JTG4eva!

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NorEaster27 wrote

Whiteface is 77% open, Gore is 55%

NE27......stop distracting the SnoShitShow with facts and knowledge. The only thing you could do that would be worse would be to throw in a little real life experience with skiing WF. Sheesh!!!!

We REALLY need a proper roll eyes emoji!!

snoloco

Re: Whiteface - Lookout Mountain...estimated opening?

Right now, according to those numbers, and the skiable acreage advertised by both mountains, Whiteface has 241 acres open and Gore has 236. About the same amount of terrain open.

Once Gore opens up their planned terrain expansions for this weekend, they will be well ahead of Whiteface, since they're not opening any new terrain this weekend.

I may go on Sunday just to see how much of a shit show it is, but I think I'd rather not waste my time and just go to Gore.

I've lived in New York my entire life.

JTG4eva!

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It's going to be a LOOOOOONG three and a half years..........

We REALLY need a proper roll eyes emoji!!

evantful

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God have mercy on all of us...

snoloco

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JTG4eva! wrote

NorEaster27 wrote

Whiteface is 77% open, Gore is 55%

NE27......stop distracting the SnoShitShow with facts and knowledge.

The other facts are: Gore is opening 3.9 miles of terrain this weekend according to the lengths that Google Earth gives and what they've blown snow on. They also resurfaced some terrain. Wilmington Trail is 1.81 miles long, according to the same source, but takes more snow per mile to cover. Since both mountains have snowmaking plants about the same size, how could it have been impossible to open Wilmington this weekend?

I've lived in New York my entire life.

tjf1967

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Couple winter vacations in college I would go work at a mountains to get a pass. I made snow one winter at Sugarbush. It think you would benefit immensely to try doing that one winter. It will give you a better appreciation as to what goes into it as well as the limitations. You quote " We will go to tremblanc" Go ahead!! Don't you think you should check with the guy that is paying before you start spending his money. You have always been a spoiled little bitch in my mind but and I ignored you. I was not going to argue with a 14 year old kid. Its getting to the point I cant stand you and I have no idea who you are. Your dad should have kicked you more when you were younger. If he read your posts he would be embarrassed for you, your making as ass of yourself.

campgottagopee

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FKNA

TJ just gave Sno a big ole cup of shut the fuck up stew

WORD

campgottagopee

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Better be careful lil buckaroo

there are stories of lil college boys going into the high peaks region of NY and never coming out again

those mountain men up there mean biz

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