NY Residency for Attending a SUNY?

Somewhat related, but also not to the other "college" thread.

Does anyone know what the rules are for attending a SUNY with resident status. How long do I have to live in NY for my daughter to go to a SUNY as a New Yorker?  Does my property in the Adks help with that?

Also would love any on what SUNY schools are good, and for what kind of specialties.

TIA.

Binghamton has the best all-around rep, Albany has some elite business programs, Purchase has a good liberal arts scene and is close to NYC, same with Stoney Brook (but more commuters there)..... but only New Paltz has the gunks!

https://www.suny.edu/sunypp/documents.cfm?doc_id=402

looks like you as her parent would need to make your NY address your permanent domicile by getting a NYS drivers lisc and filing taxes in NY.  That could be tricky with NJ income.

Suny Plattsburgh and Potsdam is known for being good for education majors

Univ Buffalo has a good engineering and business school.

Thanks for the link Coach. Looks like one year.  

Maybe she'll have to powhound in Utah for a season while we get that going.

Have her live here one year - you don't need to.  I believe it's like that for most state schools, or at least ones that I have checked.  I glossed through Coach's link and saw there are exceptions:

"Students who have not established a New York State domicile for a period of at least one year immediately preceding the time of registration and who wish to be considered eligible for in-state tuition must submit to the campus a standard Application for New York State Resident Status for Tuition Billing Purposes"

I don't think any of those exception apply to you though.

One of the best ways to establish residency is to attend a CC for the first year while living and working in the state.

SUNY Geneseo is another big one for Education.

As a former SUNY official , residency had multiple requirements back in my day
Primary residence IN state
Where you pay your state taxes on that property
Registry of vehicles
Primary mailing address
Registrationj to vote i

Not certain if these are still utilized BUT it was back in the day

Establishing residency in NYS will save you about $10,000 per year. The link below has the in-state and out-of state tuition from SUNY New Paltz. The family needs to be domiciled in NYS. In the link that was posted, I believe from Coach, it states this quite clearly. It is increasingly difficult for a student to declare themselves emancipated. Also, these rules are changing all the time and states are trying to tighten loop holes. Harvey, since your student is still in elementary school, it is hard to plan ahead with any certainty. You might be able to time a year off with a move to NYS to make this work.

Obviously, Neve might have other ideas.

(Now she's all about "Yale." Not sure where she got that except maybe Yale represents "not Princeton.")

Going to be hard as hell to afford any school as I hope I will be retired.

Hope.

that is the dig of having kids later in life college starts to conflict with retirement time. The good part of that is if you are retired and not making much it might mean a better shot at financial aid.  

I'd nip that talk of Yale or other Ivy's in the bud now.  My parents paid for state school and that is my obligation to my son as I see it.  If he wants something out of state or private then loans will come into play. If he is still ski racing and at a FIS, NorAm or NCAA level that would change though.  Military service to pay for school I also see as serving your country and getting rewarded though I would certainly prefer that service to be post college as an officer.  I came very close to taking as Air Force ROTC scholarship that I was offered and sometimes regret not doing so.

Man it used to be much easier to move and get residency in another state when I was in HS.  I know lots of people who did this going to other states from NY.

My parents moved when I was a senior in high school and I stayed behind to finish school and then attend an in state university.  I lived with my uncle but it was the opposite I was keeping my residency instead of trying to establish a new one

Yeah - either way it didn't seem to be as hard 15+ years ago.  I guess states got wise.

Apparently in NYS the age of emancipation is 21 years.  Yikes.  So I believe she wouldn't be able to move here and gain residency privileges after a year, unless you went through the legal hassle of the emancipation.  Of course then she'd have to prove she wasn't dependent on you (her parents) anymore.

I wonder if you can get around that with some careful trust planning?

As a NYS taxpayer I hate this conversation.  SUNY has done a lot to prevent this from happening... and they should continue that down the line.  

And as far as the Yale thing goes... Yale is only charging students that parents are in the upper upper tax brackets.  They have such a large endowment that they simply stopped charging tuition.  Really, if she can get in, she should go for it.    

http://admissions.yale.edu/financial-aid-prospective-students
"Families whose total gross income is less than $65,000 (with typical assets) are not expected to make any financial contribution towards their child’s Yale education. 100% of the student’s total cost of attendance will be financed with a Yale Financial Aid Award.
Families earning between $65,000 and $200,000 (with typical assets) annually contribute a percentage of their yearly income towards their child’s Yale education, on a sliding scale that begins at 1% just above $65,000 and moves toward 20% at the $200,000 level.
There is no strict income cutoff for financial aid awards. Many families with over $200,000 in annual income receive need-based aid from Yale."

Yale is just a crazy thing that my nine year old is saying.

Regarding hating this... I get it.  I'm down on one part of the tiny house thing... many are doing it to dodge property tax.  Or.. AirBnB, Uber, whatever.  The playing field should be level for all businesses to compete.

In my defense I have been paying taxes, including school taxes, in NY since 1998.  I've spent every dime of my disposable income since 1989 in NY at ski areas, grocery stores, on contractors, restaurants, and hotels.  My hobby, that I have poured my soul into, has been called NY state tourism marketing initiative. I've donated professional digital marketing services to several businesses in the Adirondacks and Catskills. And if my life goes as I hope, beginning in 9 years, I'll pay 100% of my tax dollars to NY until I am gone from the earth.

I am not trying to perpetrate a scam. I would live in NY now if I could.

If you COULD live in NYS, wouldn't you!?
I mean, you are in New Jersey, right!?!?!

UB has a great everything including a new multi-gazillion dollar medical campus.

And a community of ski FREAKS which is why Holiday Valley is ranked #3 in ski magazine . . . . coach

Sno's Mt Creek has more vertical than HV and is about 5 times the size and Harv already lives near that.  I'm sure Its a nice little mid western ski hill with the emphasis on little.  Stack about 7 of them on top of each other and you get close to Whiteface.

If HV is so great why is your screen name not Holidayfarmhouse?

All you need to establish residency in NYS (as the guardian) is a rental lease and some sort of utility bill. The SUNY system is a high quality bargain.

ml242 wrote

Binghamton has the best all-around rep !

Truth. I think they even call themselves Binghamton University and have dropped the SUNY thing.

SUNY Cortland is everything sports, and has a good education dept. They seem to pump out a lot of teachers.

Too bad jacktheripper isn't still active. He's a SUNY Cortland grad I believe.

UB has one of the finest pharmacy programs in the country ,and the Only one in SUNY

UB other high value degrees  in other allied health programs.medicine, dentistry etc etc

Have several in my family who went there and are doing very well .  

x10003q wrote

All you need to establish residency in NYS (as the guardian) is a rental lease and some sort of utility bill. The SUNY system is a high quality bargain.

The parent needs to have a NYS drivers list and have filed income taxes in NYS according to the SUNY web site