The Worst Day Since Yesterday

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Highpeaksdrifter Highpeaksdrifter
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The Worst Day Since Yesterday

Some people think that the only difference between a good day and a bad day is attitude.

Some skiers think skiing in the worse conditions is better than not skiing at all.

Will you ski in frigid temps, high winds, rain, on ice, bare spots and rocks all over, extremely crowded conditions?

If you show up and the upper mountain is on wind hold and you only have lower blandish terrain open will you pack it in or ski what you can?

If it thaws by day, then freezes by night will you ski boiler plate the next morning?

Will you ski anywhere at any time in any conditions or do you have limits?

If you have limits tell us what they are.

What is the worse condition day you ever skied in?

There's truth that lives
And truth that dies
I don't know which
So never mind - Leonard Cohen
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By the sounds of it, you're a Whiteface skier!  (Kidding, kidding...sort of.)

For me, it's all dependent on the snow itself. Boilerplate ice is only fun for so long. I am not a fan of sugar/sand snow resulting from grooming after rain/fog.

Otherwise, for me, skiing > not skiing.
"This is pure snow! Do you have any idea what the street value of this mountain is?"
Hoser Hoser
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Frigid temps, high winds, rain, ice - yes!  Able to dress for those, however the bare spots/rocks not so much.  Nor the crowds.

Thinking of days I quit early, were due to being overcrowed with lack of terrian.  Did take one run at Gore and called it a morning the day of the flying rocks last year, but that was due to bare terrian, and the crowds due to limited capacity, not primarily the wind.  Heck, wind and ice,  kinda pre-April normal day at our tallest mountian up North!

Speaking of that mountain, if only the Bear lift is running, will head to town instead.  Will ski boilerplate, keeps the crowds down and a chance to bring out the tuned GS skis.

Worse conditions were above, rocks coming at us sideways and pushing the lighter skis uphill on Ruby.  Hit Mammoth with winds gusting to 70 mph on top,  due the ridge their Gondi still run and while certainly an experiece, did mulitple laps just tightened the goggles.

Bottom line - weather extremes (cold, hot, wind, rain) keep at it.  Crowds, bare and/or limited terrian,  not worth an accident/injury/damage to equipment
riverc0il riverc0il
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Depends.

I've skied in the rain before. MRG closing weekend with good company and good terrain. It was actually kinda fun. Once you are already soaked, you are soaked. As long as there is good terrain and good company, I'm pretty much game for anything.

When the terrain is lacking and I am by myself, I am a lot more picky. I don't even bother going if it just rain/froze and the mountains are intermediate ice groomers only. I have better things to do than ski icy groomers after a rain freeze (early season excepted). Some might call that attitude. I call it making better use of my time. Not an attitude problem... just a different approach to how I enjoy skiing. A good day at the office is better than a terrible day on the slopes.

If the lifts stop and the snow is good, I hike. If there is thin cover, I smile and go for it. If it is cold and windy... I don't care... it's skiing and it's winter. I have no stomach for horrid conditions and bland terrain, though, especially when solo.
Face4Me Face4Me
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I think it depends on the situation.

If I'm skiing at Whiteface, which is where I ski every weekend, I might be a little more likely to call it quits when things aren't too great. If, on the other hand, I've traveled somewhere else, then I'll put up with pretty much anything.

I rarely let weather alone dictate. I've skied on some absolutely frigid days, with ridiculous wind-chills. If the conditions are good, and even if they're not, I'll just go in to warm up when needed, and then come back out. Skiing in the rain doesn't necessarily bother me either, to a point. I've had some of my most memorable days skiing in a little light rain, where everything's nice and soft and you just don't even notice the rain. On those kinds of days, I don't usually go "bell to bell", but I'll usually go until I can't possibly bear it any more.

Same for conditions ... even when conditions aren't too good, I'll still stay out, trying to find the one or two spots that are decent. You can usually find something, somewhere.

The biggest problem for me would be long lift lines (read that as 30 minutes or longer). When it gets like that, I generally pack it in.
It's easy to be against something ... It's hard to be for something!
Harvey Harvey
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I think the worst day I ever skied was at Gore in the early 90s.  I wasn't really a skier and I didn't really even realize how bad it was.  Surface was a combo of rock hard frozen mud and ice.  I was on rented alpine gear and I just could not stop or even turn.  It was bone jarring.

Of the 35 days I skied last season, I'd only consider one day not great, and it was decent.

The only way the cold or wind will stop me is if I am concerned about doing some permanent damage from frostbite. One advantage of telemarking is that your feet are getting exercise, and in general the boots have lots of toe room and are very warm.

I'd rather ski in the rain then spend a perfect sunny day on the beach.

Bare spots or thin cover? Hey I'm a Gore tree skier. That's our business.

Had a great day on all natural, but thin cover at Whiteface last December:


Danzilla on Wilderness


Highpeaksdrifter under the Bear Lift

Boiler plate is the only real issue for me - and that's a disadvantage on teles. Skiing on hard surfaces is tough on your knees with free heels. But it's rarely an issue, if you can stick to sides it seems there's always something loose.
"You just need to go at that shit wide open, hang on, and own it." —Camp
JasonWx JasonWx
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Skiing in the rain is such a bummer, yeah the conditions are usually good, but rain is so depressing..

In my book nothing sucks more than a crowded icy day.
"Peace and Love"
Goreskimom Goreskimom
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I will ski boilerplate and I will ski cold and wind too.  The one thing that sends me home early are the days when it is crazy crowded and I feel like I might get killed. On the big holidays, Presidents, New Years I will go out super early and wrap it up by 10-11 am when the mountain is so packed that I feel like I am going to get run over.  I do not love the rain and sometimes that can send me home early.  On truly arctic days I just take some extra breaks to warm up.
ausable skier ausable skier
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Rain is fine with me - many times when its raining you get that hero snow and the key is to having good pants and gloves - it your butt and hands stay dry you can go all day.

Really cold is also not an issue - dress right and go inside as needed to warm up.

Really marginal conditions like ground sugar over boiler plate many my acl repaired leg not want to risk it but I will still usaully stick it out for 10k of vert before packing it in.  Wind holds are also tough - it its only bear lift and below its time to think about drinking beer.
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So far I haven't let any of the conditions listed here stop me once I get to the mountain.  I have cut days short, spent more time in the lodge, etc on less than ideal days but if I have the opportunity to ski I will give it a go.

I used to live in NYC and we had to travel at least 2 1/2 to 3 hrs just to get to Hunter or Windham so after spending so much time on the road I would ski the whole day no matter what.  Back then I went on a bunch of overnight bus trips and a couple of times the group didn't ski because of rain or whatever and I'd be furious (if there weren't enough people skiing the bus wouldn't go to the mountain).

Now with plenty of good skiing within a short drive I can be a lot pickier but so far I haven't been. I'll still go if I've got the opportunity.  I figure if I reach the point that I'm skiing so much that I start turning down ski days then life must be pretty good!
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