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Here's a serious question : where is the BULLION to back all this FIAT **money they ARE printing ?? Uh huh yep we were already a Trillion dollars in the hole this year in the Federal Budget BEFORE the pandemic .

Could this be the new Venezuela ??

***Fiat money ( US currency is an example is basically not backed sufficiently with bullion or other precious metals) and is actually worthless except in the mass psychology of nations,    meaning we only " THINK " its worth something but there is no gold bullion backing it in the "same proportion " it is being printed

Scary, you  bet it is .Someday that is coming home to roost
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Real life never ended for those of us in "essential" fields although personally I think every business is essential to the health of this country.  Essential because there is a human story behind every job.  That said here is what I believe will happen:

1) President will minimize and/or fire Dr. Gloom (Fauci) and Dr. Doom (Birx).  My guess is this will happen tomorrow.  
2) Right or wrong, the crisis will be framed as largely a metro NYC problem.  The rest of our country is not as enamored with NY as we are.
3) Texas will ease restrictions on most businesses.  Like minded states that had few restrictions in place will follow suit.  Ultimately this will place pressure on more restrictive states to ease policies.  Remember, much of the pain has been inflicted at the state level.
4) Domestic air travel will start to open up with possible limitations to/from known "hot spots".  Foreign travel will be restricted for the rest of the year; travel to/from China longer.
5) And yes, WD, inflation will rise due to the massive injection of cash into economy.  Smart people will use this opportunity to pay off devalued debt.
6) Americans will become as comfortable with annual CV deaths as they are with the flu, etc.  An annual vaccine may be developed at some point but like the flu it will only be partially effective.
7) Some people will learn from this experience and make a plan to have an abundance of essentials (food, TP, etc.) in stock in preparation for the next crisis.  Most will not.

Which businesses should be opened?  Any which dares to.  Business owners and customers need to decide for themselves if they are risking their health.  Those who want to stay home can - there will be plenty of other people producing the goods and services that will make this possible.

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No mention of testing in your prediction.  Hope you are wrong.
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Car washes. My car looks like shit.

Companies should start putting orders in for masks and purel.
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onscott wrote
Real life never ended for those of us in "essential" fields although personally I think every business is essential to the health of this country.  Essential because there is a human story behind every job.  That said here is what I believe will happen:
Huh? What do you mean by real life never ended for those deemed essential businesses. You can't truly mean that, if so, you'd better look around. Shit has changed and it doesn't matter if you're working or not.

My buddy said it the best. People are getting their lattes delivered to their houses now, we're all fucked.
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tjf1967 wrote
Car washes. My car looks like shit.

Companies should start putting orders in for masks and purel.
Don't you have a hose?
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Brownski wrote
What do we need to see to start loosening up?
Fast, reliable testing for everyone and some kind of confirmation about whether it's possible to get it again once you had it

When do you think we can start moving back towards real life?
"Real life" continues. Nothing is static. Things change. "Real life" is the life you are living. It's no less "real" because some people are staying home more.

How do we do it? All it once or a little at a time?
Not sure what you mean here. There are people who are working their asses off because their "real life" demands that they do. It's a bit strange to ask exactly how the people privileged enough to work from home should transition back to the office.

If a little at a time, which businesses get to come back first? (I could really use a haircut)
I think there might be more important things going on in the world than haircuts? But if you want one, just buy a set of clippers and go nuts.

I am assuming nobody thinks we can leave things like they are for eighteen months but if you do, feel free to say so.

What do you all think?
I think that we could survive if we had to do this for 18 months, but a shorter timeframe would obviously be better. The whole point of "flatten the curve" was to spread it out so we don't overwhelm the hospitals. If you spread it out, it will take longer (and less people will die).

We don't know exactly how long it will take, we don't know which businesses will fail, and we don't know what post-pandemic life will look like (I'm not going to wear a mask, but I'd bet that more people start doing it).

These answers probably aren't satisfying to you, but if your biggest problem is that you "could really use a haircut", I feel pretty confident in this prediction: the human race will manage to make it through this and we'll have some good ski days next year.
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warp daddy wrote
Here's a serious question : where is the BULLION to back all this FIAT **money they ARE printing ?? Uh huh yep we were already a Trillion dollars in the hole this year in the Federal Budget BEFORE the pandemic .

Could this be the new Venezuela ??

***Fiat money ( US currency is an example is basically not backed sufficiently with bullion or other precious metals) and is actually worthless except in the mass psychology of nations,    meaning we only " THINK " its worth something but there is no gold bullion backing it in the "same proportion " it is being printed

Scary, you  bet it is .Someday that is coming home to roost
This is fearmongering. We don't currently have any inflation and lots of people are worried about deflation. And even if we got a bit of inflation, it would be good. We could pay off our debts with cheaper dollars and this country's goods would become less expensive on the world market, leading to more US based manufacturing.

Warp, what are you even arguing here? You think we should go back to the gold standard or something?
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Well yeah I do but have not hooked it up yet.  I did troubleshoot the sprinkler system and got that up and going last week.  The hoses will come out this week.  Its that time... pressure wash the houses.  I guess I will have no choice but to spend the 15 minutes to wash the car.  The inside was pretty spotless.   I had to replace a thermocupling at the apartment and got it a mess.  Being the johnylightbrite I am I just jumped in the car to run to Home depot and the shit went everywhere.  
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