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campgottagopee wrote

Can you imagine if booze wasn't essential? Holy crap what a shit show we'd have on our hands.

Seriously.
I’d gladly trade my “Christmas in March” to get the rest of you back to work though or even just to get my on-premise co-workers whole again.

campgottagopee wrote

Can you imagine if booze wasn't essential? Holy crap what a shit show we'd have on our hands.

Is it everywhere?  My brother and his fam in PA told us they ‘couldn’t go to the liquor store’.  Don’t know if that was by choice, or if they are closed.

The liquor stores in PA are state owned. I know they closed them initially but I thought they had reconsidered and opened them up. Maybe not

Brownski wrote

The liquor stores in PA are state owned. I know they closed them initially but I thought they had reconsidered and opened them up. Maybe not

 
PA reopended for online orders only. No retail stores. Beer distributors are open and some grocery stores sell beer and wine.

I heard the online store site keeps crashing. I don't drink alot (of liquor anyway  ) and have enough bourbon and scotch for awhile, but wifey is down to two fingers and a couple airplane bottles of Tito's so I guess I'll find out soon enough. Local PA craft distilleries are still open as well.

How close are you to a border? You might be better off just popping into NY or NJ

I’d like to know how other modern, Democrat countries are dealing with the economic woes.

This might be a good time to ask ourselves what is working in this country and what is not.

If climate is actually our biggest threat right now we should probably rethink our values, economy, consumption etc. I mean, this cleaner air, quieter skies and streets is actually really beautiful imo. I say this with no disrespect to those that are sick but it has been my observation.

Maybe it’s time to simplify things. Reconsider our health care, free people from crushing student debts etc.

I don’t know, I’m no economic wizard but what seems most apparent to me right now is how much this pandemic is uncovering all of the things wrong in America.

That’s one expensive suit! :D

I have also been dreaming about changes for the better.  The improvement in air quality is awesome.

i read some towns in India are now able to see the Himalaya for the first time in many a moon

Seriously. Before everyone was talking about climate change which, let’s be honest was a result of economy. Now everyone wants the economy back!

Time to rethink our values here.

raisingarizona wrote

, this cleaner air, quieter skies and streets is actually really beautiful imo. I say this with no disrespect to those that are sick but it has been my observation.

Maybe it’s time to simplify things. Reconsider our health care, free people from crushing student debts etc.

I don’t know, I’m no economic wizard but what seems most apparent to me right now is how much this pandemic is uncovering all of the things wrong in America.

Agree with all of this.

IMO, we need Free healthcare, Free Education (Kindergarten to Bachelor's Degree or Trade School), Higher minimum wages, and competent leadership. And at least one more Stimulus check.

raisingarizona wrote

Seriously. Before everyone was talking about climate change which, let’s be honest was a result of economy. Now everyone wants the economy back!

Time to rethink our values here.

Have you considered how much suffering you’re prescribing? We could be on the verge of a Great Depression here. That will have an enormous human toll. It sounds like you’re saying “here’s our chance to use this huge tragedy so that we can make people we disagree with act the way we thought they should act anyway.” Is that what you mean?

Brownski wrote

Have you considered how much suffering you’re prescribing? We could be on the verge of a Great Depression here. That will have an enormous human toll. It sounds like you’re saying “here’s our chance to use this huge tragedy so that we can make people we disagree with act the way we thought they should act anyway.” Is that what you mean?

Brownski, do you think the economic suffering is a greater concern than the pandemic (and associated deaths?)

Agree with all of this.

IMO, we need Free healthcare, Free Education (Kindergarten to Bachelor's Degree or Trade School), Higher minimum wages, and competent leadership. And at least one more Stimulus check.


Not for nothing, this won't be free.  We'll need taxes to cover it.  I'm totally fine with that.  In addition to being fine with clawing back recent tax cuts to the .1%.

MC2 5678F589 wrote

Brownski wrote

Have you considered how much suffering you’re prescribing? We could be on the verge of a Great Depression here. That will have an enormous human toll. It sounds like you’re saying “here’s our chance to use this huge tragedy so that we can make people we disagree with act the way we thought they should act anyway.” Is that what you mean?

Brownski, do you think the economic suffering is a greater concern than the pandemic (and associated deaths?)

Not in the short term obviously but I think it’s possible long term. I don’t think it’s an either/or thing but poverty is a big killer too.

MC2 5678F589 wrote

raisingarizona wrote

, this cleaner air, quieter skies and streets is actually really beautiful imo. I say this with no disrespect to those that are sick but it has been my observation.

Maybe it’s time to simplify things. Reconsider our health care, free people from crushing student debts etc.

I don’t know, I’m no economic wizard but what seems most apparent to me right now is how much this pandemic is uncovering all of the things wrong in America.

Agree with all of this.

IMO, we need Free healthcare, Free Education (Kindergarten to Bachelor's Degree or Trade School), Higher minimum wages, and competent leadership. And at least one more Stimulus check.

Nothing is ever free.

campgottagopee wrote

Can you imagine if booze wasn't essential? Holy crap what a shit show we'd have on our hands.

You said it Camp... I imagined the same thing.  Last month, I bought enough weed to smoke-up a small army.

A month in....and I’m gonna cut back on the bad habits, stop treating random weekdays the way I’d normally treat a Fri/Sat night.

both sides wrote

“here’s our chance to use this huge tragedy so that we can make people we disagree with act the way we thought they should act anyway.”