High Peaks replacement?

Milo Maltbie wrote

. If ORDA leads the way of wasteful government spending to get the economy started again, I'm OK with that.

I'm okay with it, too, but I'm sure certain higher-ups at ORDA are already cutting next year's snowmaking budgets to "bring costs down" and "tighten our belts" (or whatever dumb euphemism we're going to use in the coming years to justify austerity spending and slashed employee salaries).

Harvey wrote

I'm confused.

Your FIFY implied that ORDA has different priorities than Gore skiers.  I think HP replacement is one thing ORDA and skiers can agree on.

mm

MC2 5678F589 wrote

Milo Maltbie wrote

. If ORDA leads the way of wasteful government spending to get the economy started again, I'm OK with that.

I'm okay with it, too, but I'm sure certain higher-ups at ORDA are already cutting next year's snowmaking budgets ...

That will be up to Andrew.  I'm betting on more spending, not less.

mm

x1000 FTW

mm

Z wrote

Part of this next stimulus bill is going to infrastructure so NY could use some of that funding for these chairs
I hope the Bears Den chair also happens at WF

These are shovel ready projects

Liftblog has the Bunny Hutch lift being replaced with a fixed grip quad. Is that the one to Bear Den?

mm

gotcha, our lil shitheads programs were cancelled too but I believe they were more 'rona related than funding

Harvey wrote

campgottagopee wrote

What the hell are these little shitheads gonna do?

They could come to your office and put their fingerprints on everything?

LOL

MC2 5678F589 wrote

(or whatever dumb euphemism we're going to use in the coming years to justify austerity spending and slashed employee salaries).

Who's salary is getting slashed?

Milo Maltbie wrote

Harvey wrote

I'm confused.

Your FIFY implied that ORDA has different priorities than Gore skiers.  I think HP replacement is one thing ORDA and skiers can agree on.

mm

You inferred it, I didn't imply it.

High Peaks has to be replaced, and as a Gore skier, I'm in favor of it.  I agree 100% with your last sentence above.

I believe the driving force behind the replacement is ORDA's understanding of the importance of Gore.

x10003q wrote

Harvey wrote

Milo Maltbie wrote

campgottagopee wrote

Just seems like poor priorities to me. That's all.

ORDA can only do what it does. It can't bail out towns or fix roads and bridges. If ORDA leads the way of wasteful government spending to get the economy started again, I'm OK with that. OTOH if the gondola can't run next year, High Peaks replacement is a pretty high priority for Gore skiers. Of course Harvey would rather have an elegant double instead of a garish quad, but the masses don't share his unmatched sense of style.

mm

FIFY.

FIFY

FIFY

Harvey wrote

x10003q wrote

Harvey wrote

Milo Maltbie wrote

campgottagopee wrote

Just seems like poor priorities to me. That's all.

ORDA can only do what it does. It can't bail out towns or fix roads and bridges. If ORDA leads the way of wasteful government spending to get the economy started again, I'm OK with that. OTOH if the gondola can't run next year, High Peaks replacement is a pretty high priority for Gore skiers. Of course Harvey would rather have an elegant double instead of a garish quad, but the masses don't share his unmatched sense of style.

mm

FIFY.

FIFY

FIFY

Actually, I'd rather have a double too because of faster rope speed without as much loss of capacity as you think. I even want it to unload where it does now, before it gets up into the wind.  

mm

I say put a 6 pack in there to give 2600 skiers per hour the opportunity to enjoy the solitude of the dark side.

campgottagopee wrote

MC2 5678F589 wrote

(or whatever dumb euphemism we're going to use in the coming years to justify austerity spending and slashed employee salaries).

Who's salary is getting slashed?

Jump Turn Guy said he took a 20% hit, I thought? Your sales guys might not sell as many cars.... Restaurant staff will surely get shafted.

I think the ski resort employees are already close to minimum wage, so we'll see how that goes.

Harvey wrote

I say put a 6 pack in there to give 2600 skiers per hour the opportunity to enjoy the solitude of the dark side.

A bubble with heated seats could really enhance your experience

I don't see how prices don't go up.

Unless this is a one and done thing, and the hills lose money for one year.

Or we go all in on herd immunity.

Harvey wrote

I don't see how prices don't go up.

Unless this is a one and done thing, and the hills lose money for one year.

Or we go all in on herd immunity.

Prices of what? Skiing? Usually, when people don't have money, you have to lower prices to attract customers.

The "herd immunity" thing continues to be a terrible idea. What is your endgame there? Sacrifice the old people & full speed ahead?

I continue to think that we'll be fine by ski season because of a combination of "flattening the curve", social distancing, masks, & a possible vaccine. Ski resorts likely won't make as much money at the bar or with food service, but Gore is gonna be happy that they have all that lodge space and that they built so many decks.

Hope you are right.

I agree no way are lift tickets going up this year.

Which mountains are profitable enough to operate in the black at 50% capacity?

I guess the real question is, is social distancing permanent, on-and-off, or once every 100 years.

Was not advocating for or against herd immunity.

Who knows?

No one it seems. It’s all a mystery for now.

I’m going to remain hopeful that this junk fades away pretty soon but it’s what I want to believe, not anything more.

Put link to ORDA May BOD meeting on our covid impact to skiing thread.
I'll drop it here too for your viewing pleasure. First 11min is spent debugging connections.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwSfkOU5P3U&feature=emb_err_watch_on_yt
Just watched it. Nothing said about Gore, nor Whiteface skiing.

Harvey wrote

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Which mountains are profitable enough to operate in the black at 50% capacity?

I guess the real question is, is social distancing permanent, on-and-off, or once every 100 years.

I don't think the mountains themselves will be at 50% capacity. Maybe the lodges.

I think, if there is still a virus threat, the social distancing thing will fade to: do your best. Lift lines might be more spread out, maybe there won't be a singles line, that kinda thing.

But, like I said, we might be free and clear by November/December, so I prefer to remain optimistic.