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It's got to be something structural to be that dramatic.
The unemployed aren't measured and the people who are still employed are saving a lot? Or maybe there is nothing to spend on.
"You just need to go at that shit wide open, hang on, and own it." —Camp
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+600 unemployment?
"You just need to go at that shit wide open, hang on, and own it." —Camp
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Holy shit, Blackrock is cashing in on the Fed's desire to back up all these big businesses (instead of letting them go bankrupt):
From: https://prospect.org/api/amp/coronavirus/unsanitized-blackrock-buyer-and-seller-federal-reserve-bailout/ |
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I do not pay any attn to your index Harv as it means nothing to me just as my method is incomprehensible to you
I am now back to or slightly above my previous high water mark so I’m good. You are probably about 15% below yours. I can tell you it’s been a lot of work and research on my part to get there And it’s more than I really want to do I’m looking to off load more to my advisor
if You French Fry when you should Pizza you are going to have a bad time
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Well I guess the comparo is off huh. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. The real issue is time frame, I don't judge strategy on three months.
5% down since the late Feb high for stocks. I'm 40% in bonds.
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I was in stocks & cash, used cash to buy stocks on the way down, and I'm probably like 10% off my highs. I have made more money in stocks in the last week than most essential workers have made working full time for months, and I don't even have that much money. Millionaires & Billionaires are jumping for joy |
This market is nuts
Airline stocks are way up with AA up 25% today on schedule increases yet only 24% of people say it’s safe to fly Big report on payrolls is on Friday and it could show strong rehiring which will add Jet fuel to the market My concern is this really sustainable with this economy? I may think about taking some profits Nd money off the table next week As I think there has to be a bubble brewing I admit I may have been wrong as indexes With what I called crap like the airlines are roaring back
if You French Fry when you should Pizza you are going to have a bad time
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Funny thing about the market huh.
Back to within 2% over here.
"You just need to go at that shit wide open, hang on, and own it." —Camp
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Really good job numbers today, but it seems like it's a lot of workers like camp (people laid off, then rehired when portions of the economy were reopened). Still a ways to go. Lots of people won't be rehired.
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On November of 2006 the first alarm bells rang for what we now call the Great Recession. The market stood just south of 12k. We bottomed out just North of 6.6k in March of 2009. We didn't recover to the pre-crisis level until May of 2012. Quantitatively, on a number of levels, the current market behavior defies traditional wisdom. That should say something in terms of risk. I just bought 15 acres of land... seems like a safer investment than our national casino we call equity markets. |
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I sold off Some winning this morning but kept the positions
When MC and I agree watch out It would no sense to go much higher. the Dow Is within 10% of all time high when the economy was running at perfection at the end of a bull market. Sentiment alone compared to earnings is driving this.
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Traditional financial wisdom rarely encounters a pandemic. Most companies will come out of this leaner. Good luck with your land. |
Thanks x You're right, but I think we're looking at a situation where it will take a few years for demand to recover. Some sectors remain unaffected. A few sectors may even grow faster than before. All that being said, aggregate demand will suffer as the effects of the stimulants start to wane. High unemployment and various fear related aspects will also constrain overall demand in the mid to long-term. The equity markets appear to be moving contrary to the current economic outlook. I think we're in for a crazy ride. |
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Another way to say this is: Less people will have jobs, jobs might pay less, and our collective purchasing power will be lower. |
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This has not been my experience.......oh, wait....you’re talking about the stock market. Carry on. |
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Good points and a crazy ride for sure. Cheap money will cover up a lot of issues. The market might also be anticipating a return to 'normal' president who has a history of working with both sides of the aisle and will stock the administration with professionals that have appropriate credentials for their positions (like no brain surgeons running HUD). A president who will listen to the professionals to make decisions and stabilize the current unpredictability. A president who will stop fighting with our allies/trading partners because it is bad for business. |
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Well there goes this thread into the dumper
Let’s me put it this way If you care about your retirement accounts there is only one choice in this election to make It would also be best for the market that the status quo remains in regards to control of house senate and WH If all three go one way And should a certain the nutty lady who falsely claimed to be an Native American becomes Sec Tres you can kiss your retire savings bye bye. We would see the Dow below 15k If that happens buy gold and guns
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I don't think what X said was overly political... no more than your comment. I don't find either offensive, they're opinions and both should be heard. With our current trajectory, I think we'll sew our own seeds of financial destruction regardless of the politics. |
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