Next Upgrades at NY Ski Areas

snoloco wrote

campgottagopee wrote

Home schooled??

No, lunch period.

It's really nice outside, go out and play.

Damn computers!!! When I retire I will not have one.

Harvey wrote

My beef with Sno is that he is willing to pass up new terrain, if it doesn't get snowmaking at the same time.

When someone offers me free beer, I don't turn my nose up at the brand.

Harvey wrote

no lift-served skiing at Gore.

Best scenario yet

Cut the trail and add snowmaking later was a good strategy, in the 1960's.  We live in the 21st century now.  With the advancements in snowmaking technology, it is a necessity to a consistently open ec trail.

I didn't say to never take the incremental approach.  To me, taking the incremental approach is to spread the cost out over 2 years.  For Burnt Ridge, this is what that would have been if I was building it.

Year 1:  Build lift and cut Echo, Cedars, Hedges, the connector to Twister, and Sagamore.  Have snowmaking on all but Sagamore the first year.  Glade certain areas as well.

Year 2:  Add snowmaking to Sagamore and cut two new trails, one where Boreas Glades is and one where cirque glades is, both with snowmaking.

I am against building a lift with no snowmaking at all and leaving the entire section to rot for 5 years.  When a lift is built, the BARE MINIMUM for snowmaking is trails connecting to the rest of the mountain (for the Ski Bowl, this means Abenaki from BR) and at least one trail that can be lapped off the new lift.  Of course snowmaking plumbing means nothing if you don't increase pumping capacity, so increase it enough to allow the new section to open by 12/26 its first year.  That's the absolute bare minimum for a new section's first season.

I would dearly love to see snowmaking implemented at Mount van Hoevenberg, as per the Unit Master Plan.

Rumor needs a tubing lane.  

billyymc wrote

Sno's viewpoint has no basis in experience or reality. He's read a bunch of stuff about the ski industry, memorized a bunch of facts about lifts and other things, colored that all with his own preferences and biases, and thinks that makes him an expert on how to make "xzy" resort perfect.

Hey, I think I see a great career path for the kid. He could work for Fox News and be one of their on air partisan hacks who twist facts until they fit a preexisting viewpoint.

Powderchaser wrote

I don't necessarily disagree with everything he says, that's why I'm not refuting anything.  It's more of his attitude of wanting everything now and by Christmas break that makes him come across as a spoiled brat.  Do you disagree with that?

I just disagree with calling others names because they express an unpopular viewpoint with the collective.  

Mountain Dick wrote

There is a place for people like you.  It's called Stratton and Okemo.

Great screen name. I look forward to reading your dick posts.

campgottagopee wrote

Damn computers!!! When I retire I will not have one.

Hmmmm...what will Cam need in retirement? I'm thinkin:

Golf clubs
Ski equipment
Guns for huntin
BEER

Did I leave anything out?

Highpeaksdrifter wrote

campgottagopee wrote

Damn computers!!! When I retire I will not have one.

Hmmmm...what will Cam need in retirement? I'm thinkin:

Golf clubs
Ski equipment
Guns for huntin
BEER

Did I leave anything out?

Lil wiskey now and then

and my bike....really enjoy riding that silly thing. Could ALMOST scratch the golf clubs from your list and put bike in there.

Highpeaksdrifter wrote

Mountain Dick wrote

There is a place for people like you.  It's called Stratton and Okemo.

Great screen name. I look forward to reading your dick posts.

Dammit HPD, I miss having ya'll around here. That shit was funny^^^^^

I thought it was all about free pizza.

Gore is different than Hunter?

Thank the Lord!

Yesterday a deluge of posts. Today ... nothing. Did his dad revoke his internet privileges?

Spongeworthy wrote

Yesterday a deluge of posts. Today ... nothing. Did his dad revoke his internet privileges?

Well... I had a glass o wine and let it go...

Nope, my internet privileges are still around and always will be.  My dad is on a business trip, so he couldn't do anything, not that he would.

Sno - you ought to do a little search on this forum, try search words like Gore, snowmaking and lifts. You will find several threads where long time members are making the same arguments as you have been (although not as well reasoned) and not getting a tenth of the shit you get. Going back and quoting those would be an interesting exercise in comedy.

Difference being that most of those arguments aren't saying if it can't all happen immediately none of it is worth doing.

There are plenty of mountains that are up to Sno's standards, I don't get why he is so focused on Gore.  There are also several mountains that are behind Gore in the relentless march to homogenization. Not sure why they have escaped his well reasoned arguments.

There's modernization, then there is development and there is also homogenization.  Everyone pretty much agrees on modernization (with the exception of MRG).  

The issue becomes how to pay for it. That's when development usually creeps in...if we build it, they will come.  Once development begins...homogenization isn't too far behind.  

Gore, being State owned is, of course, the exception to this theory because they can't build out the base area; they get direct State funding instead. But, I suppose in their case, in order to draw the general skiing public, they are still homogenizing their lifts and trails.  

Whichever way you look at it, Platty is still the  best of everything. :).