ORDA's operating loss increases year over year

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Pants
mattchuck2 wrote
World Cup skeleton luge to be really interesting.
skeleton luge would be really interesting..way more than doubles luge what with the 69 positioning and all.  I think you are onto something
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Face4Me
Pants wrote
mattchuck2 wrote
World Cup skeleton luge to be really interesting.
skeleton luge would be really interesting..way more than doubles luge what with the 69 positioning and all.  I think you are onto something
What kind of doubles luge have you been watching? The doubles luge I've seen is more like a 99 position!!!
It's easy to be against something ... It's hard to be for something!
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Pants
Face4Me wrote
Pants wrote
mattchuck2 wrote
World Cup skeleton luge to be really interesting.
skeleton luge would be really interesting..way more than doubles luge what with the 69 positioning and all.  I think you are onto something
What kind of doubles luge have you been watching? The doubles luge I've seen is more like a 99 position!!!
 I meant the new sport of skeleton luge
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ml242
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mattchuck2 wrote
But, like I said, I'm really the only person that can advocate for all my positions. And it's easier for me to hold on to that idea than to try to explain to someone in the Bronx why ORDA is actually a really good public service and if you could only afford a bus ticket and a hotel and an admission ticket you'd find the World Cup skeleton luge to be really interesting.
There's a huge private skating center that may open in the Bronx. Why didn't ORDA think of that?
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Face4Me
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Pants wrote
Face4Me wrote
Pants wrote
mattchuck2 wrote
World Cup skeleton luge to be really interesting.
skeleton luge would be really interesting..way more than doubles luge what with the 69 positioning and all.  I think you are onto something
What kind of doubles luge have you been watching? The doubles luge I've seen is more like a 99 position!!!
 I meant the new sport of skeleton luge
Ooops ... my bad ... that makes much more sense ... would that be a mixed doubles sport?
It's easy to be against something ... It's hard to be for something!
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Benny Profane
This is classic, and, really, the root of the problem. Imagine a CEO of a large corporation (and, if you think of NY state as a large revenue and spending machine, it probably dwarfs many large companies) telling it's shareholders that we are profitable this quarter, because, well, I'm pretty sure we will be profitable in two years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/31/nyregion/cuomos-talk-of-a-surplus-leaves-out-a-big-caveat.html?ref=nyregion



There are budget tricks, and there are budget tricks.

Some governors go to enormous lengths and expense to improve the way their finances look. They sell highways or government buildings, delay worker paychecks or tax refunds, or concoct new and costly ways to borrow money.

This year, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo is pulling a budget trick ... on a budget.

“We have gone from a $10 billion deficit to a $2 billion surplus in just three short years,” Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat seeking re-election in November, declared in his State of the State address this month.

Left unexplained was the source of that surplus.

Mr. Cuomo’s official financial plan shed a little light, but not much: A four-sentence footnote essentially says that the surplus will materialize if the governor persuades lawmakers to approve big cuts to planned increases in spending in future budgets. The “magic footnote,” as one analyst christened it, thus contains a multibillion-dollar caveat.

That has not stopped Mr. Cuomo from trumpeting the $2 billion surplus as a leading success of his time as governor — as if he had already achieved it. But New Yorkers will also have to wait awhile to see if the governor’s confidence proves warranted.

While the state expects some extra money as early as this year, he did not point out in his speech that a $2 billion surplus would not come, if it comes at all, until the 2016-17 fiscal year.

The budget for that year would be negotiated two years from now, well into his second term. Hypothetically.

“The $2 billion surplus is strictly notional,” said E. J. McMahon, president of the Empire Center for Public Policy, a conservative research group. “That’s a fine goal. But you can’t claim credit politically for having a good goal.”

To achieve it, the footnote explains, Mr. Cuomo and the lawmakers who approve the budget in future years will need to hold increases in state spending to no more than 2 percent annually.

Those lawmakers have not been elected yet.

In the governor’s defense, his first three budgets did manage to keep state spending growth below 2 percent — no easy feat, given that education and Medicaid spending have risen around twice that amount.

Matt Wing, a spokesman for the governor, said critics were unwise to doubt that Mr. Cuomo could continue enacting equally austere budgets.

“All budgets make assumptions,” Mr. Wing said. “We are assuming that the state does the same thing it has done for the past three years, while this claim assumes the state does something radically different. Which theory is more probable?”

Undeterred by the perils of prognostication, Mr. Cuomo has already decided what to do with his hoped-for future windfall: He is counting on it to pay for tax cuts he has proposed.

Elizabeth Lynam, director of state studies for the Citizens Budget Commission, said Mr. Cuomo’s track record was compelling, but finding billions in savings is never easy.

“He’s saying, ‘Trust me,’ ” she said.
funny like a clown
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Harvey
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Benny Profane wrote
“The $2 billion surplus is strictly notional...”
That word makes me chuckle.

If I have a notional balance in my account can I write checks against it?
"You just need to go at that shit wide open, hang on, and own it." —Camp
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campgottagopee
Harvey wrote
Benny Profane wrote
“The $2 billion surplus is strictly notional...”
That word makes me chuckle.

If I have a notional balance in my account can I write checks against it?
Isn't that just crazy --- how the hell do they think that kind of crap up --- friggin politics

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Snowballs
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Cuomo never said how he made the annual 11+ billion deficit disappear. No new major tax increases or major spending cuts, just Voila! and the yearly deficit was gone. Poof!  Amazing.

I suspect he/they transferred massive burrowing for the yearly State budget to the State Agencies where it occurs out of sight and lays waiting to bite us in the butt later.
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Noah John
Snowballs wrote
Cuomo never said how he made the annual 11+ billion deficit disappear. No new major tax increases or major spending cuts, just Voila! and the yearly deficit was gone. Poof!  Amazing.

I suspect he/they transferred massive burrowing for the yearly State budget to the State Agencies where it occurs out of sight and lays waiting to bite us in the butt later.
Sure I suspect there was plenty of gimmickry.  But revenues were probably up.  Wall Street had a banner year last year and when Wall Street wins so does NYS.
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