Objectivity

raisingarizona wrote

Yes, why not rewrite the memorial plaques to describe the controversy and different aspects of why we could celebrate or not celebrate some historical figures? Leave it open for interpretation and educational without bias?

I guess that would make too much sense and confuse the majority that loves the group think mentality and gets angry when being challenged by critical thinking questions. Ya, F- that, lets keep it at a GI Joe vs. Skelator level. Derp.

raisingarizona wrote

It's funny to hear coastal liberals talk about what's best for the Indians and cultures they aren't familiar with.

raisingarizona wrote

Yes, why not rewrite the memorial plaques to describe the controversy and different aspects of why we could celebrate or not celebrate some historical figures? Leave it open for interpretation and educational without bias?

campgottagopee wrote

I agree with both of you. I agree that going forward this is what needs to be done. People are all in an uproar over friggin statues that were put up 100 friggin years ago??? Shit man the people who are responsible for them aren't even around anymore. Let them be.

Now I understand that others may think differently than me, I'm fine with that. Despite the fact that the majority of Americans think they should stay, or could care less one way or the other...

Many of the South’s Silent Sentinels turn out to be identical to the statues of Union soldiers that decorate hundreds of public spaces across the North. Identical, but for one detail: On the soldier’s belt buckle, the “U.S.” is replaced by a “C.S.” for “Confederate States.”

It turns out that a campaign in the late 19th century to memorialize the Civil War by erecting monuments was not only an attempt to honor Southern soldiers or white supremacy. It was also a remarkably successful bit of marketing sleight of hand in which New England monument companies sold the same statues to towns and citizens groups on both sides of the Civil War divide.

It took some years before Southern customers caught on and sought to buy statues of soldiers who were more obviously Grays rather than Blues. Statue manufacturers eventually gave their Confederate models a slouch hat instead of the Union topper that looked more like a baseball cap, and a short shell jacket rather than the North’s greatcoat, and a bedroll to replace the Union man’s knapsack.

MC2 5678F589 wrote

 

Then fuck the Confederacy and everyone who fought for it. They lost. They are losers. And so is everyone who hangs a Confederate flag from their house or Truck.
 

campgottagopee wrote

I'll ask you again. Should we hate the black slave owners and indian slave owners as well, or just the white boys to keep racism alive. How about all the black slave traders??? Are you going to give them a pass too?? Then there's the black confederate soldiers, do they deserve your hate??

What about when all these statues and monuments are finally gone. Is racism then over??? Does the color of ones skin matter when it comes to your hate??

If you really hate slavery maybe concentrate your hate where slavery is alive and well. Like Russia??? Go protest in N. Korea for a while.

MC2 5678F589 wrote

 

What about when all these statues and monuments are finally gone. Is racism then over??? Does the color of ones skin matter when it comes to your hate??

No. Racism won't be over. But the monuments should still be removed because the government shouldn't be tacitly supporting the Confederacy and its White Supremecist policies.
 

campgottagopee wrote

You're going to ignore them??? Seems a little hypocritical to hate on one simply because of their color.

campgottagopee wrote

So the color of ones skin does or doesn't matter?

MC2 5678F589 wrote

campgottagopee wrote

You're going to ignore them??? Seems a little hypocritical to hate on one simply because of their color.

I'm not ignoring them because of that. I'm ignoring them because there is a tiny number of them, there aren't statues dedicated to them throughout the south, and there aren't people protesting the removal of those Statues.

MC2 5678F589 wrote

campgottagopee wrote

So the color of ones skin does or doesn't matter?

Does not and should not.

 

MC2 5678F589 wrote

 

Except that we should try to get a diversity of opinion from all people with different backgrounds when trying to find solutions to the problems of the world, including, but not limited to, academic settings, where minority voices are underrepresented.

One of the problems in the world is racism, and I think we should probably get the opinions of black people, native Americans, Hispanics, and others in addressing that problem.

MC2 5678F589 wrote

Now you're just being ridiculous.