What is the Ideal Amount of Snow?

PowderAssassin wrote

nepa wrote

PowderAssassin wrote

nepa wrote

No.  That's not it.  I love NVT, but I still really don't care who get's more snow.... that seems to be your thing.  

Then don't post on the thread anymore. Why even bother talking about it??? Yeah you know damn well you care. You aint fooling nobody buddy boy.

Nope.  I don't care who get's more.  Really, I don't.  

While we're on the subject of the thread... It appears that this one is named "What is the ideal amount of snow?"  I'm trying not to nitpick... because I know you are sensitive to nitpicking, but that doesn't translate to "Who get more snow... NVT or the Rockies?"  right?

Let me apologize in advance.... I feel like you might be getting butthurt by my responses.

Because ideal amount of snow has relation to snowiest ski areas.

Come on PA... that's pretty weak.  Quite honestly, I'm disappointed.  I think you can do better than that.

PowderAssassin wrote

Glade Runner wrote

So you prob ride 12 times a year at best.  All trails, with a din setting at what 6?  I prob rode more powder days last year than you rode altogether.

WOW! AWESOME DUDE! lol Din settings are according to your weight and if you're going fast enough(70mph taking extremely sharp turns with the ski's shuttering under the force) to crank em up like a ski racer than you'll either get kicked off the hill or die if you fall.

So obviously his butt is the one hurt now he couldn't respond with his typical arguments, name calling and putting words into others mouths.  

Glade Runner wrote

PowderAssassin wrote

Glade Runner wrote

So you prob ride 12 times a year at best.  All trails, with a din setting at what 6?  I prob rode more powder days last year than you rode altogether.

WOW! AWESOME DUDE! lol Din settings are according to your weight and if you're going fast enough(70mph taking extremely sharp turns with the ski's shuttering under the force) to crank em up like a ski racer than you'll either get kicked off the hill or die if you fall.

So obviously his butt is the one hurt now he couldn't respond with his typical arguments, name calling and putting words into others mouths.

Considering that fact, I am glad to hear you spend all your time on the blues.

PowderAssassin wrote

Glade Runner wrote

and who needs a helmet riding blues anyways

More solid advice. Considering more people dies on blues than all other trails. Keep up the solid advice.

And who is the one on the trails?

And since you are all about Snow Ridge, were you there for opening day?

PowderAssassin wrote

Glade Runner wrote

So you prob ride 12 times a year at best.  All trails, with a din setting at what 6?  I prob rode more powder days last year than you rode altogether.

WOW! AWESOME DUDE! lol Din settings are according to your weight and if you're going fast enough(70mph taking extremely sharp turns with the ski's shuttering under the force) to crank em up like a ski racer than you'll either get kicked off the hill or die if you fall.

The idea behind an extremely high din setting is that pre release at the speeds/terrain your on is so severe that possibly losing a leg if you fall makes more sense. You can't do that type of skiing on an open to the public trail.  And without netting, it's a complete death wish with the trees. You fall, you'll likely die skiing like that.

Thanks for the lesson because I'm sure everyone was wondering what the din setting was for

Am I allowed to say that Powderass's Dad didn't hit him enough?

Highpeaksdrifter wrote

ScottyJack wrote

PowderAssassin wrote

Do you guys set your din at like 20+ so you can also show how "core" you are as well?

NO.  Mine are set at 10

Mine go to 11


Spinal Tap Rules

Ha!  You beat me to it.

Noah John wrote

Am I allowed to say that Powderass's Dad didn't hit him enough?

In this case, you're not only allowed but encouraged.

Glade Runner wrote

Thanks for the lesson because I'm sure everyone was wondering what the din setting was for

You're welcome.

I'm not exactly sure how you can compare skiing powder on an open trail to super tight east coast woods skiing. Look at the woods in this picutre. It's almost cross country skiing because you'd have to go so slow to stay safe. No wonder you guys are talking about needing a super steep slope to ski pow and "sinking".
Seriously?? Pic from adk jeff's site

No one is comparing the two except you.  No one claimed to ride super fast in the woods.  You were the one that suggested that.  You figure because you ride fast on trails that we ride fast in glades.  But I would ride fast on wide open trails to.  

Let's look at some numbers

Telluride
vertical drop 4410
Acreage = 2000+ acres
Average snowfall mid 300s

Jay peak
vertical drop 1936
Acerage 385 acres
Average snowfall 355

Oh and I have a question, when they talk acreage, are they talking about just open trails or the entire ski area? Because telluride would absolutely crush any east coast area because of wide open bowls vs mostly tight trails and woods bullshit at eastern areas.

It crushes it in every area. Seen NVT areas can get away with exageratting snowfall totals in my opinion because most of the people that ski here don't have a clue HOW MUCH SNOW 350+ inches is. That's an incredible amount of snow. You're going to get feet and feet all the time. You can't lie about vertical and acreage though.

Glade Runner wrote

No one is comparing the two except you.  No one claimed to ride super fast in the woods.  You were the one that suggested that.  You figure because you ride fast on trails that we ride fast in glades.  But I would ride fast on wide open trails to.

Plenty of people compare the two including people saying nvt gets more snow as many CO resorts, which is laughable in my opinion. You're talking hills vs real mountains. I don't ride super fast. I like to stay safe and injury free and have a good time. But in woods that thick, it's hard to even move. Like I said, I prefer an open trail with untracked fresh deep pow. To say you'll be getting the goods as much in NVT as a place like Aspen or telluride is laughable. Thus I question the numbers being reported and say tug hill gets the most in the east. I've followed the montague radar and burlington nws radar as well as ski reports and local spotter reports after storms. I can tell you the tug gets more snow more often, and deeper snow, less wind affected, wider trails so it doesn't get tracked out, WAY WAY less crowds which is really important. Of course snow ridge doesn't get as much as the high mountains in CO, but they never claimed to. They are really honest and give actual lift tickets people can afford vs the rip off of northern new england snow gun reliant hills. Again, if they got that amount of snow in vermont, they wouldn't need the extensive snow gun system that they have. There's a reason 100% coverage is such a marketing thing in new england. And it's more important the farther south you go. Wachusett would have a season a few weeks long with gas without it.

And another problem why it doesnt add up is because it snows and melts off all the time.  It never completely stacks up.

And dont forget most nvt mtns have 4 to 5 times the vertical snow ridge has.  Im only going to snow ridge when they have snow the others dont.  Once you hit mid to late season, you are a fool to ride 500 vert when nvt has 100% coverage.

And yes we have established out west is way better.  Thanks for letting us know as im sure we were all unaware.

Glade Runner wrote

And dont forget most nvt mtns have 4 to 5 times the vertical snow ridge has.  Im only going to snow ridge when they have snow the others dont.  Once you hit mid to late season, you are a fool to ride 500 vert when nvt has 100% coverage.

Yes of course I know the difference in vertical. I listed it. It's the EC. You can't have everything. You make your choice.
I'm no fool. I know exactly what I like
Who gives a crap about 100% coverage when it's all hardpack? LOL Seriously the snow conditions suck the majority of the time unless it's snowed, which isn't very often. Too many crowds and it doesn't snow often enough. It's ice, scratching sounds on every turn even when they've groomed it. Most of the people skiing there don't even know what good snow is. It's silent and soft. Not that iced up machine made snow scratching really firm crap.

Weekends for the most part are of course a complete waste of time as majority of hills like killington, stowe(rip off), mt snow ect. because crowds are impossible. Weekdays is only doable day at most areas. Near Impossible to score fresh powder on weekends on trails. Maybe 2 times down assuming you get first chair before it's completely tracked out. Of course on top of it trails are narrow and majority is groomed at most new england areas. But there are some secrets for when/where to go to get some of the goods. But the weekday is obviously a must.

And when I say majority is groomed....I don't mean they groom when they close. I mean they go out right before they open and destroy all the pow from an overnight dump into cord. On majority of the mountain at most areas. Okemo is a prime example of that, but many others do it as well. Many EC skiers don't like powder unfortuntaley because they have no experience with it due to relatively low snowfall. Check out okemo's fb page after they didn't groom some trails during one storm. Now those people are the true gapers.

Bro, you r def doing it wrong.