COVID 19 impact on skiing

PeeTex wrote

Z: consider this scenario, NWS staff is at WF sitting at a table just occupied by an infected person from Saratoga. Guy goes back to NWS and spreads the virus all over. Healthy athletic kids show little to no symptoms but spread to the rest of the staff. Staff goes home and spreads it to elderly relatives. In two weeks local Hospital has 500 at risk cases who need critical care and no place to put them. That’s how it works.

Now the staff are still all there working from campus on e learning so that scenario you described could still happen.  The teachers Mostly all live there on campus.  The kids are now dispersed to other places much less safe from covid 19 compared to the campus like NYC, China and Europe.  The only difference is now the school is no longer legally responsible for them.  That’s how avoiding legal liability works.  The schools are not all doing this for the public good it is about their self interests.  How do you ever bring the kids that went to high risk areas back?

Harvard faced a different issue.  They are in Boston so you could certainly argue what they did was in the students best interests.  But it set an example that then others had to follow or face professional or legal issues.  There are two sides to these things but you guys are too busy panicking to see them.  Use some common sense is all I ask.

Who is panicking? I'm not seeing it.

The TP line people are

News Flash...no TP in LP (Hannafords)

I hope there is a world to come back to.

Z, Harvard wasn’t the first school to close. Not sure why you seem focused on them. Must be a talking point on one of your media  inputs?

Ski lifts in Switzerland have to be closed by Monday, March 16th.
Glad I was there last week and not this week.

Harvey wrote

Who is panicking? I'm not seeing it.

I’m seeing it.

Tell.

I googled "coronavirus panic" and found this:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amid-coronavirus-panic-buying-2-injured-fight-sam-s-club-n1158066

Just one example: I had to drive past a Costco this morning to get to a customer. Traffic was backed up out their driveway and all the way down the highway ramp.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1238470421776699396

Were emotions running high?  

I guess that is a different definition of panic.  Is any change in your buying pattern considered panic?

If you are waiting in line, patiently checking out your phone buying something you need because you think this may be your only chance, to me that is just dealing with the BS of life.

If you break a wine bottle over a guys head because he got the last roll, that is different, to me.

The Middlebury Snow Bowl is closing up for the season on Sunday afternoon, based on the school's COVID-19 policy.  

I also saw ORDA isn't running any gondolas, and smaller venues are being restricted/closed.  

Harvey wrote

If you break a wine bottle over a guys head because he got the last roll, that is different, to me.

I can’t imagine any condition where I’d sacrifice a bottle of wine for a roll of TP, well maybe certain bottles are of less value.

Thursday evening is my regular grocery store time.  Last week, normal.  Last night:



Paper towels and toilet paper wiped out; Lysol disinfectant wipes wiped out; poultry wiped out.  Guy in line ahead of me bought 33 f'n rolls of toilet paper.  Out of control.

I've been training 3 clients who are in the US from overseas, consulting at some large corporation.  Corporation sent them back to Switzerland.

50 confirmed cases of COVID 19 in NJ.  Curious about how many there would be with adequate testing.

Z wrote

PeeTex wrote

Z: consider this scenario, NWS staff is at WF sitting at a table just occupied by an infected person from Saratoga. Guy goes back to NWS and spreads the virus all over. Healthy athletic kids show little to no symptoms but spread to the rest of the staff. Staff goes home and spreads it to elderly relatives. In two weeks local Hospital has 500 at risk cases who need critical care and no place to put them. That’s how it works.

Now the staff are still all there working from campus on e learning so that scenario you described could still happen.  The teachers Mostly all live there on campus.  The kids are now dispersed to other places much less safe from covid 19 compared to the campus like NYC, China and Europe.  The only difference is now the school is no longer legally responsible for them.  That’s how avoiding legal liability works.  The schools are not all doing this for the public good it is about their self interests.  How do you ever bring the kids that went to high risk areas back?

Harvard faced a different issue.  They are in Boston so you could certainly argue what they did was in the students best interests.  But it set an example that then others had to follow or face professional or legal issues.  There are two sides to these things but you guys are too busy panicking to see them.  Use some common sense is all I ask.

A frequent poster on AZ has the virus and is in quarantine
I hope for best for every 1

corona wont have much of an impact on the ski season remaining but mother nature sure will. I think I hear her practicing her chords already.

Where do you think these tests were going to come from?  Somehow people are blaming Trump like he could waive a magic wand and have a test for a novel virus out of thin air.   FDA requires testing on medical devices which tests have to go thru.  I work in this area and have 25 years experience working with medics device firms getting approvals.  The shortest path is a 510k submittal which requires an approved predicate device and takes months to prepare as they are hundreds of pages long and the FDA takes a min of 90 days to approve

Tests that are not properly vetted has lots of false positives and negatives which has been the case with some of the testing in Asia.  The first tests were basically manual.  Roche got the first automated test approved this morning and Thermo Fischer Trump announced would have an approval early next week.  I immediately bought TMO stock btw after that announcement.  The testing throughput will go up to millions in the next couple weeks now.

Ive never liked Trump but that news conference and his working with big med tech firms hit it out of the park.

Yep - read a few excerpts and he did a good job. Dow up 2k. Won’t be surprised if it opens another 1k points higher tomorrow. Communist News Network trying to through as much cold water on it as possible.

Z wrote

The only difference is now the school is no longer legally responsible for them.  That’s how avoiding legal liability works.  The schools are not all doing this for the public good it is about their self interests.  ... But it set an example that then others had to follow or face professional or legal issues.  There are two sides to these things but you guys are too busy panicking to see them.  Use some common sense is all I ask.

To some extent, I think there is definitely some truth to this, however, looking at the "other side" ...

I think the whole point of sending them home, and spreading them out, as has been pointed out, is to try to limit "mass transmissions" of this virus. Students living in a dormitory, or in a classroom environment, provide the opportunity for "mass transmissions".

I don't think that's panic ... it just makes sense.

And you're right ... sending them home may cause them to contract the virus, but in that environment, presumably they'd be in their own home with their own 3 or 4 family members instead of an environment where they'd be potentially infecting dozens of others.

Isn't that common sense?