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campgottagopee

Re: ORDA's operating loss increases year over year

Benny Profane wrote

Hey, Noah, get back to work. Seems like you can't afford internet access back at the trailer, so you get all nasty on your bosses dime.

There ya go, pretending to know everything again.......

Face4Me

Re: ORDA's operating loss increases year over year

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Benny Profane wrote

Face4Me wrote

Down at the Jersey Shore ... hmmm ... I sure hope that no taxpayer dollars were spent to support any tourism down there.

Not a fan of the shaw, but, hey, I got laid, which, I tell you, sounds like a few cranky upstaters around here need. sheesh.

Actually, I live further "downstate" than you. Unlike you, however, I'm not a douche, nor am I cranky.

It's easy to be against something ... It's hard to be for something!

Benny Profane

Re: ORDA's operating loss increases year over year

I shouldn't, but…..

A "douche"? Really? Am I suddenly back in high school?

funny like a clown

Benny Profane

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Noah John wrote

Easy there little Benny Boy. I could buy and sell you. In fact, given your negligible net worth, I could buy you - and then throw you away.

Sorry. Doublewide?

funny like a clown

gorgonzola

Re: ORDA's operating loss increases year over year

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Benny Profane wrote

A "douche"? Really? Am I suddenly back in high school?

no, than you would be a peckerhead...

(there now I feel like i've contributed as much worthwhile content as anybody is this awesome thread!)

Benny Profane

Re: ORDA's operating loss increases year over year

Well, after some thought, I prefer scoundrel. Yes, a dirty scoundrel. A philandering rogue. Yeah, that's better.

funny like a clown

Pants

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Noah John wrote

Benny, you're like a bag of jello; somebody squashes one dumb argument and you invent another one that pops out someplace else. You're all over the place. The only way in which you're consistent is that you're always wrong. NYS finance is pretty complicated; I don't pretend to really understand it. It's maddening though to watch it "discussed" in such an ad-hoc and unsophisticated way. There are many people, and I suspect you're one of them, who when faced with something they don't understand, fill that void of knowledge with simple generalities and/or tired old ideologies they've been dragging around their entire lives. It's annoying. I never thought I'd say this but why don't you go back to discussing the merits of various snow tires.

Now THATS funny!

CMR

Re: ORDA's operating loss increases year over year

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"Sorry. Doublewide?"

So was that.

Re: ORDA's operating loss increases year over year

Would you guys all stop it. This thread is so far off the rails its embarassing. Clearly this topic will be a hotly debated one but this is not a debate its high school stupidity with a side of bullying thrown in - no check that Junior High.

Is this what we want a new reader to stumble upon and think they will come back. This is a good discussion worthy topic lets lets all keep everyone hands to themselves and stop the name calling. Yesh - all of you grow up.

if You French Fry when you should Pizza you are going to have a bad time

campgottagopee

Re: ORDA's operating loss increases year over year

You're not the boss of me

Harvey

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In reply to this post by Z

I spoke to a guy who is a member of a snowmobile forum and lurks here. His comment to me was NYSB forums were more interesting to him because they presented a more diverse range of opinions and povs.

If true, it makes sense that there'd be conflict. Somebody (and it might have been HPD) once said "the more you agree with me the smarter you are" or something similar.

There are so many VT ski blogs but only a handful of decent ones in NY. Some percentage of people looking for NY Ski info end up here.

Is NY a cool place to ski? I believe it.

I'm with Coach. I'd like to see us represent.

"You just need to go at that shit wide open, hang on, and own it." —Camp

Harvey

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Administrator

On Topic: You have to have a govt agency running Whiteface, Gore and Bell. It's state land. Because it's state land it will never be developed the way a private resort would be. These mountains have to be subsidized to maintain infrastructure. They will never pull in enough gate to replace a lift and groomer every five years. That's not criticism it's reality.

What was the operating loss? I didn't even read the article. I bet no matter what it is, it's a reasonable amount to pay for the commerce skiing creates.

"You just need to go at that shit wide open, hang on, and own it." —Camp

Goreskimom

Re: ORDA's operating loss increases year over year

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Well said.

Highpeaksdrifter

Re: ORDA's operating loss increases year over year

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Harvey wrote

If true, it makes sense that there'd be conflict. Somebody (and it might have been HPD) once said "the more you agree with me the smarter you are" or something similar.

not me

There's truth that lives
And truth that dies
I don't know which
So never mind - Leonard Cohen

Thacheronix

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Harvey wrote

Whiteface, Gore and Bell. It's state land. Because it's state land it will never be developed the way a private resort would be. These mountains have to be subsidized to maintain infrastructure. They will never pull in enough gate to replace a lift and groomer every five years.

Isn't this a less confrontational version of what Benny said?

Noah John

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If this place was limited to people posting gratuitous technique tips (which I find annoying and could care less about), trip reports (which are nearly universally boring) or equipment reviews (which are inherently subjective and therefore almost completely useless. Plus, who cares?) it would completely suck.

There are two different cultures in skiing: The stick-up-your-ass, PSIA one that values mindless uniformity and military type discipline and the rough-and-tumble, irreverent one that only cares about having fun and isn't afraid to offend a few PSIA types in the process. Pick one.

campgottagopee

Re: ORDA's operating loss increases year over year

I'll take the fun, fun, fun category for $1000 please, Alex

tjf1967

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It was a Ausable guy. He is a me me me person

Harvey

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tjf1967 wrote

It was a Ausable guy.

TJ is correct. Here is Aussie's signature:

I sense that signature is a little tongue in cheek.

I wasn't taking a shot at Aussie (or HPD). Let's face it at some level that is how we all think.

Sorry for the confusion HPD, carry on.

"You just need to go at that shit wide open, hang on, and own it." —Camp

ScottyJack

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Thacheronix wrote

Harvey wrote

Whiteface, Gore and Bell. It's state land. Because it's state land it will never be developed the way a private resort would be. These mountains have to be subsidized to maintain infrastructure. They will never pull in enough gate to replace a lift and groomer every five years.

Isn't this a less confrontational version of what Benny said?

No it isn't. And it's also inaccurate. Whiteface and Gore do regularly turn profits but the other venues consistently hemorrhage. Hence the overall loss.

And the Benny fellow made a blanket insult that everyone upstate is poor, lives in trailer parks and depends on his 138K tax revenue plus his trust fund annuities to survive. He then also claimed it was ok that gov’t fixed infrastructure like bridges in the city because they change tolls and he gets laid at the Jersey shore. (I do not believe that for a minute).

So no, it is not even close to Penny’s statement.

I ride with Crazy Horse!

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